FG are not a solution. They are pretty much the same as FF, only not so obvious when it comes to corruption. They'll continue to privatise everything they can, like FF, until there are no public services left [apart from the 'loss making' ones which private companies won't touch, unless they are subsidised(bailed out in regular installments) by the taxpayer]Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician
There are a lot of posts here baying for Fianna Fáil blood, but what's the alternative? I detest both Fine Gael and Labour. Not keen on the Green party or New Sinn Féin either. I don't think that any of those parties have actually clearly articulated an alternative solution to the crisis in public finances, let alone one that the two or three parties likely to replace Fianna Fáil would espouse as a joint strategy. Vote for what?
- Fine Gael...builders and vested interests
- Labour...unions and abortion
- Sinn Féin..."equality"i.e. amnesty for illegal immigrants, incompetence in Government (see North)
I think what we need is for a minority to split or break free from Fianna Fáil. I fundamentally think most Fianna Fáilers are decent and motivated by higher purposes, but unfortunately are led by an arrogant clique whose reputations and careers are entirely based upon their grandfather's or great-grandfather's careers in the Civil War. If most Fianna Fáil cumainn broke away and perhaps joined up with certain disaffected ex-Sinn Féiners or indeed traditional Labour members, then perhaps a new party could be founded that would be naturally successful in Ireland. It would be socially conservative and economically populist with a firm commitment towards Irish re-unification. Essentially, the Fianna Fáil brand is dead and they need to jettison the dynasts that control that movement i.e. the Lenihans, Haugheys, McEllistrims etc.
The new party (perhaps The Republican Party) would be ideally suited to the character of the Irish people, reflecting their values in a manner that Fine Gael/Labour do not. This party would nationalize the banks, Eircom and Aer Lingus if necessary but also tackle the public sector unions and implement reforms.
Fine Gael are a spent force. They lack a real front bench and Kenny is a desperate leader who is out of touch with the electorate. I'd agree with nationalizing the banks. I do think the nature of Ireland has changed dramatically in the last fifteen years. Personally, I don't really have an opinion on Irish re-unification. I think it is not a real issue for the majority of people living in the republic today. I would think that Ireland is becoming more socially liberal and this could be a reason for Enda Kenny's lack of popularity. He moved to the right when a lot of people moved from the right towards the centre and centre-left as a result of the actions of the US government adventures abroad.
In fact Sean, Cork wants to break away from Ireland so re-unification really is so last century.
The naievity of your post makes me sad for you and your family. It is astounding to me how someone can either be so ignorant of history (in this case of the last 30 years) or choose to ignore it and instead profer bland excuses for those who have failed this country, indeed, raped it for their own advancement. This sort of drone like following of the party line give politics the name it deserves and allows the likes of Haughey, Lowry et al, to do whhat they do. Which is treat the people of this country like mugs.
Originally Posted by The Red Rose of Cork
I dont care about "the majority of people"
TONYs ?
It has to be
The process has now begun. A fg motion. Greens doing the right thing in the teeth or opposition by cowen. Government down to a majority of one plus two indos. At the doors ff are about as welcome as a mexican in a maternity ward.
If the banks are out for a bail,
and Lenny's efforts end up as a fail,
when the Somer does come,
to the Country they'll run,
And leave a Fine mess for the Gael.
Endinf the one Party (FF) state:
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[QUOTE=Question R24U;1603795]The process has now begun. A fg motion. Greens doing the right thing in the teeth or opposition by cowen. Government down to a majority of one plus two indos. [COLOR="Red"]At the doors ff are about as welcome as a mexican in a maternity ward.[/[/COLOR]QUOTE]
racist perhaps
[quote=Quiet Man;1603807]You have ether missed the news over the last few days, you are not familiar with the maternal instinct towards newborns, or have not canvassed with ff lately.The process has now begun. A fg motion. Greens doing the right thing in the teeth or opposition by cowen. Government down to a majority of one plus two indos. [COLOR="Red"]At the doors, ff are about as welcome as a mexican in a maternity ward.[/[/COLOR]QUOTE]
racist perhaps
Anyho, ff is based on power which means getting its way. It has not done so tonight. Its government will not survive for too much longer. It may avoid the tough decisions required in the next budget ie cuts in PS pay and s/w cuts. Fg and labour can have a decent majority until 2015.
Will that be enough time to undo the damage of the last few years and more importantly ensure it can never happen again?
If the banks are out for a bail,
and Lenny's efforts end up as a fail,
when the Somer does come,
to the Country they'll run,
And leave a Fine mess for the Gael.
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[quote=Question R24U;1603998]spin you're answer all you want, you know exactly what I meant, many people have died from swine flu epidemic, majority if not all are mexican, yet many more nationalities have shown cases occurring and more by the hour, yet you chose to highlight the mexican race as a negative
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