The way FFers feel the need to fall over themselves to defend CJH never ceases to amaze me. Reminds me of the similiarly frantic way that socialists try to defend Lenin as being a wonderful person.
I'm sure the "historians" of the various FF cumainn will be kind. Posterity is a different thing entirely.
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Eh... no.Isn't is surely time for all honest and clear-minded people of all parties and none to accept the truth that during Charles Haughey's period in office, as a minister and as Taoiseach, he achieved far much more for the country than anyone else at the time, and that his positive attributes far outweigh the negatives.
Des O'Malley "achieved far much more for the country than anyone else at the time", despite not having all the levers of power that being Taoiseach provides.
It must be very difficult for current Fianna Fáilers to consider Haughey superior to O'Malley. This is for the very simple reason that current FF policy is much closer to what O'Malley promoted in the 1980s than whatever populist gob************************ery Haughey came out with.
In terms of economic progress, sensible liberal social advances, and the current peace process all the groundwork was laid by progressives like O'Malley.
And O'Malley may have lacked the charisma of CJH in his pompous prime, but at least he isn't a sad and lonely old man, reduced to selling his family home and watching his kids downplay the family name. In truth, I feel sorry for Haughey.
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I for one miss his sort...he used to tell the lads in the money markets before he devalued the punt...
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BTW that was a joke I oppose all forms of dishonesty
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....now watch this drive. Sorry I couldn't resist.
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That predated my time in the markets
This rubbish is consistently spewed out by the PDs and their fellow travellers. Unfortunately for them, it has no basis in fact. The economic reforms brought about by Haughey were instigated between 1987 and 1989, when the PDs were in opposition and had no influence. Alan Dukesw can claim some credit, O'Malley cannot. O'Malley is probably the most over-rated politician of the last 30 years, a man who achieved nothing yet is feted by some deluded souls as the man who saved the country. He left FF in a huff because he couldn't accept the will of the majority of the party to go and form his own little niche grouping, who thankfully will be reduced to a tiny rump after 2007. That is his legacy, nothing else.Des O'Malley "achieved far much more for the country than anyone else at the time", despite not having all the levers of power that being Taoiseach provides.
What Haughey did while in office was good and accreditible. However his means, and vices were less than complementary, and are largely responsible for the title currupt, which he was allmost undesputedly.
S.Behan
People like you have been saying that about the PDs for 20 years and we're still around.
MJ Coughlan,
Waterford City.
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They are. But not in the numerical force that they thought they would be.
S.Behan
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