Beginning of the end for the Aherns?

[KingKane]

I'm surprised this hasn't raised more or indeed any comment here.

It was reported in the Herald during the week that the FF group on Dublin city council replaced Maurice Ahern as group leader and that Deirdre Heney stepped back from her position as whip. Julia Carmichael replaced Ahern as group leader. Not sure who the new whip is.

It has been suggested the reasoning was centred around Maurice's lack of surefootedness on the issue of Freeman for the city of Bob Geldof. Of course, Deirdre is very close to the Aherns, what with being Noel's PA or something in Leinster house and a noted votegetter in the DNC area herself.

Could the truth be the shuffling and scuffling for who replaces Bertie in the election after next has started in earnest? Bertie has said he will retire at 60 years of age so that could well make the 06/07 election his last. Control of the local organisation will be key as to who gets the nod to replace him after that.

So, could it be that the Carmichaels are trying to sow up local control of Drumcondra in advance of Heney getting a Seanad nod from Bertie had being groomed as his real heir if Cyprian Brady did manage to hold the 2nd seat for FF in Central?

[agora]

This is probably a real tabloid style question but anyone know what the story is between Heney and the Taoiseach?

[TheChief]

This is probably a real tabloid style question but anyone know what the story is between Heney and the Taoiseach?

Good question. Heney is the ideal type of candidate that the dead/dying FF organisation need - and yet quota-squatter Ahern threw her out of Central, and watched as Callelly threw her out of North Central. She now heads out to the wilds of Dublin North, into dangerous and risky territory.

As for Maurice Ahern: there's no doubt but that the Ahern name has been weakened after the cataclysm on Dublin City Council at the election. Lost 8 seats, and De Brudder himself had a close shave, just escaping the Shinners.

Ahern has shafted every northside FFer at some point- just look at how Brian Lenihan, Sean Haughey and poor old Pat Carey have been treated over the years.
Its possible that many people think that Ahern may lose the leadership in 2007, after defeat (or at least a disastrous result) at the general election. This move could be seen as posturing in anticipation of this

[Jim84]

Or it could be that Ahern was a bad Group leader of Dublin City Council.

And the FF councillors got some sense after been humiliated over the Freedom of the City fiasco and shafted him.

[ChrIreland]

Or it could be that Ahern was a bad Group leader of Dublin City Council.

And the FF councillors got some sense after been humiliated over the Freedom of the City fiasco and shafted him.

Maybe

[drjimryan]

He is generally incapable and merely held that position because of his brother.... Heaney for Dublin North? its becoming very interesting there...no convention yet...Keeping trouble to the last one councillor recently observed....heres one for you

Dublin North

Jim Glennon
Deidre Heaney
Royston Brady....Anyone agree.....Also labour did ff a great favour by picking Sean Ryans brother...sure if FF did that rabitte el al would be on the wagon......anyone who thinks that 4 high profile (now shafted ) cllrs will help brendan ryan is dillusional........nepotism is alive and well in Labour!

[cllr]

Just to say "Thanks" to Maurice for his mannered and decency during his term as FF Group Leader on the Council. Most people would not realise the amount of work, with no recompense, that goes into the job of Group Leader. Deirdre Heney also did a good job - particularly on the Protocol Committee where she fought hard to protect Councillors interests when newer Councillors, completely misunderstood the implications of some of the things they were seeking. I hope she stays on that Committee - Whip or not.

[TheChief]

..........with no recompense......

Isn't there a financial allowance of some kind for group leaders?

I've just noticed that rumours of this were published in last week's Tribune.
An unnamed FF Cllr. (presumably Carmichael) said "Maurice made a total show of us. He efectiely shamed us into supporting the proposal"

[Jim84]

Isn't there a financial allowance of some kind for group leaders?

The Herald claimed that the post came with some money, wouldn't think it be that much.

Cllr, you were once Labour Group Leader. Does it come with a allowance?

[cllr]

No Jim84 I was never Group Leader.

I was deputy to Tommy Broughan and then became Lord Mayor - nobody took over the role during that time as Tommy centralised this work in his office.

The next time a vacancy came up due to Tommys departure from the Council arising from the (welcome) dual mandate ban I was temporarily in Purgatory - as you may recall.

Present Group Leader, Kevin Humphreys doing a great job and all for free. I am however happy yo continue helping him in any way I can also for free.