RedC/SBP poll

[factual]

I guess the shinners will be a bit unhappy but taking the margin of error into account, they shouln't be..

Agreed, glad to see someone round here making that important point.

[CookieMonster]

This tells us that Sinn Féin have consolidated their vote.

Eah...?

Third, Sinn Féin are in the business of sustainable vote growth not flash in the pan type vote increase.

Eah...?

you've been up and down like yo-yos in the last year and barely broken the 10% mark more that what, twice?

[factual]

This tells us that Sinn Féin have consolidated their vote.

Eah...?

Third, Sinn Féin are in the business of sustainable vote growth not flash in the pan type vote increase.

Eah...?

you've been up and down like yo-yos in the last year and barely broken the 10% mark more that what, twice?

On point 1. Yes, Sinn Féin have consolidated. There is not statistically significant drop in these figures.

On point 2. You are also wrong to say "yoyo". In each and every like for like election (e.g. comparing one general election with the previous one) Sinn Féin have increased both its absolute number of votes and its share of the vote. Thats no yoyo cookiemonster thats steady upward progression.

[baldur0300]

FF support is fickle. In 2004 it slumped to 32%, days before the election this year it was 5% down.

If Ahern is found out, the economy slumps, the electorate finally becomes sick of looking at the same tired faces you could see FF down considerably.

That's nonsense. Exact same can be said about FG support at various points. In general elections FF support has been increasing while in government.

[The Trinity Politick]

This tells us that Sinn Féin have consolidated their vote.

Eah...?

Third, Sinn Féin are in the business of sustainable vote growth not flash in the pan type vote increase.

Eah...?

you've been up and down like yo-yos in the last year and barely broken the 10% mark more that what, twice?

On point 1. Yes, Sinn Féin have consolidated. There is not statistically significant drop in these figures.

On point 2. You are also wrong to say "yoyo". In each and every like for like election (e.g. comparing one general election with the previous one) Sinn Féin have increased both its absolute number of votes and its share of the vote. Thats no yoyo cookiemonster thats steady upward progression.

I must say factual- in fairness to cookiemonster, he is correct.

SF have risen above the 10% line before in a SBP poll (2005 i think...) but have since fallen back to the 6-8% level.

I honestly believe that what SF need is new leadership before it can rise again.

[kerrynorth]

This tells us that Sinn Féin have consolidated their vote.

Eah...?

Third, Sinn Féin are in the business of sustainable vote growth not flash in the pan type vote increase.

Eah...?

you've been up and down like yo-yos in the last year and barely broken the 10% mark more that what, twice?

On point 1. Yes, Sinn Féin have consolidated. There is not statistically significant drop in these figures.

On point 2. You are also wrong to say "yoyo". In each and every like for like election (e.g. comparing one general election with the previous one) Sinn Féin have increased both its absolute number of votes and its share of the vote. Thats no yoyo cookiemonster thats steady upward progression.

I must say factual- in fairness to cookiemonster, he is correct.

SF have risen above the 10% line before in a SBP poll (2005 i think...) but have since fallen back to the 6-8% level.

I honestly believe that what SF need is new leadership before it can rise again.

I remember SF polling 11pc in at least two polls incl Red C in the last weeks of the campaign!

[CookieMonster]

This tells us that Sinn Féin have consolidated their vote.

Eah...?

Third, Sinn Féin are in the business of sustainable vote growth not flash in the pan type vote increase.

Eah...?

you've been up and down like yo-yos in the last year and barely broken the 10% mark more that what, twice?

On point 1. Yes, Sinn Féin have consolidated. There is not statistically significant drop in these figures.

On point 2. You are also wrong to say "yoyo". In each and every like for like election (e.g. comparing one general election with the previous one) Sinn Féin have increased both its absolute number of votes and its share of the vote. Thats no yoyo cookiemonster thats steady upward progression.

I must say factual- in fairness to cookiemonster, he is correct.

SF have risen above the 10% line before in a SBP poll (2005 i think...) but have since fallen back to the 6-8% level.

I honestly believe that what SF need is new leadership before it can rise again.

My turn to agree with you now, TP. On the new leadership that is. Gerry really didn't go anybody in SF and favours in the last election.
List almost all political partys I have little love for SF, but I do (or at least did) think that they have (had) huge gains to make in the future, I though they would hold steady or gain 1-2. I'm sure I said that on here many times.
Your FPV share moved up what, half a percent which translated into -1 seats. You got 6.9 in the 2007 election, so assume the actual figure is half way you're at 7% now, it's hardly a gain and it "consolodated" is political speak for holding steady then you've done that. Nothing more.

[Odyessus]

This tells us that Sinn Féin have consolidated their vote.

Eah...?

Third, Sinn Féin are in the business of sustainable vote growth not flash in the pan type vote increase.

Eah...?

you've been up and down like yo-yos in the last year and barely broken the 10% mark more that what, twice?

On point 1. Yes, Sinn Féin have consolidated. There is not statistically significant drop in these figures.

On point 2. You are also wrong to say "yoyo". In each and every like for like election (e.g. comparing one general election with the previous one) Sinn Féin have increased both its absolute number of votes and its share of the vote. Thats no yoyo cookiemonster thats steady upward progression.

I must say factual- in fairness to cookiemonster, he is correct.

SF have risen above the 10% line before in a SBP poll (2005 i think...) but have since fallen back to the 6-8% level.

I honestly believe that what SF need is new leadership before it can rise again.

And/or new policies.

[The Trinity Politick]

True. Consolidation usually means stagnation which isnt a bad thing at all. Its better to hold your own than not.

With a new leadership, and who knows an alliance with Labour on councils etc....SF could rise. They have the new blood, they need the new leadership. There biggest weakness in the campaign by far (and i said it again and again to people) was the huge black posters of Gerry Adams around the place.

Why CoCaoilan was sidelined ill honestly never know.

And yes new polices of course, but they can still be radical etc.

[Apparatchik]

FF support is fickle. In 2004 it slumped to 32%, days before the election this year it was 5% down.

Most parties would relish that sort of fickle support. Luckily, FF can rely on Kenny to go on TV and extricate them from a fix, whenever their capricious voters seem set to stray.