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    Quote Originally Posted by twowheelsgood
    Its worse then the Green Party could ever have imagined.

    The voters are so annoyed at them, that they are going to lie in the opinion polls so that the crushing defeat they face in '09 will come as a complete shock.

    Serves them right!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Throat
    sinn fein need to recover or ff will do serious damage to them in the locals
    First off, this is only a single poll and we don't know the sample size. If its a normal size then there is a margin of error of +/- 2%. Second, Sinn Féin's position in this poll is broadly in line with its position in the RedC polls in the run up to the general election. This tells us that Sinn Féin have consolidated their vote. Third, Sinn Féin are in the business of sustainable vote growth not flash in the pan type vote increase. The party is the only party in the 26 counties which has increased its vote share in each and every like for like election in the 26 counties since the 1980s, a record of sustainable growth that no other party can match. Finally, these figures relate to first preferences and misses improvements in transfer friendliness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by factual
    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Throat
    sinn fein need to recover or ff will do serious damage to them in the locals
    First off, this is only a single poll and we don't know the sample size. If its a normal size then there is a margin of error of +/- 2%. Second, Sinn Féin's position in this poll is broadly in line with its position in the RedC polls in the run up to the general election. This tells us that Sinn Féin have consolidated their vote. Third, Sinn Féin are in the business of sustainable vote growth not flash in the pan type vote increase. The party is the only party in the 26 counties which has increased its vote share in each and every like for like election in the 26 counties since the 1980s, a record of sustainable growth that no other party can match. Finally, these figures relate to first preferences and misses improvements in transfer friendliness.
    The sample size is the same for their other polls circa. 1000 taken at the begining of the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by factual
    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Throat
    sinn fein need to recover or ff will do serious damage to them in the locals
    First off, this is only a single poll and we don't know the sample size. If its a normal size then there is a margin of error of +/- 2%. Second, Sinn Féin's position in this poll is broadly in line with its position in the RedC polls in the run up to the general election. This tells us that Sinn Féin have consolidated their vote. Third, Sinn Féin are in the business of sustainable vote growth not flash in the pan type vote increase. The party is the only party in the 26 counties which has increased its vote share in each and every like for like election in the 26 counties since the 1980s, a record of sustainable growth that no other party can match. Finally, these figures relate to first preferences and misses improvements in transfer friendliness.
    I'm sorry, but the original point was correct, when you make a like with like comparision, SF lost support in the 2007 election compared with 2002. If that trend continues, SF would very well lose council seats in 2009. Also depending on how the Euro constituencies are split MLM could be in serious danger of losing her Euro seat, especially given the party's collapse in Dublin in May.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alonso
    "43 pc say the Tribunal should not be investigating Ahern's private finances;"

    How many feel it shouldn't need to?
    So Fianna Failers and a fair proportion of Greens think corruption is OK.

    Hardly a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by factual
    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Throat
    sinn fein need to recover or ff will do serious damage to them in the locals
    First off, this is only a single poll and we don't know the sample size. If its a normal size then there is a margin of error of +/- 2%. Second, Sinn Féin's position in this poll is broadly in line with its position in the RedC polls in the run up to the general election. This tells us that Sinn Féin have consolidated their vote. Third, Sinn Féin are in the business of sustainable vote growth not flash in the pan type vote increase. The party is the only party in the 26 counties which has increased its vote share in each and every like for like election in the 26 counties since the 1980s, a record of sustainable growth that no other party can match. Finally, these figures relate to first preferences and misses improvements in transfer friendliness.
    The Red C polls indicate a slow but steady decline in the SF vote. This is the lowest ever result for SF in a Red C poll.
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    No bad news for any party so. FF will be happy, FG will be happy, PDs thrilled, Greens over the moon, Labour have no cause for disappointment...I guess the shinners will be a bit unhappy but taking the margin of error into account, they shouln't be.

    FG are well poised going into thsi Dail. The vote has been rock solid on 27% since the Local and European elections in 2004. With more talent at their disposal as the new term approaches, and facing an FF on 40% I'd be very optimistic.

    It shows that FG don't need FF to be down in order to hold what it has, and shows that major gains could come into play should Fianna Fail's fickle support erode away.

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    This does not bode well for SF in the Locals. FF are really doing a number on ye.

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    Re: RedC/SBP poll

    Quote Originally Posted by kerrynorth
    59pc believe that he should resign if he is shown to have lied to the Tribunal incl. 40pc who voted FF and a majority who voted Green in May;
    Says a lot about us. Does this mean that 41 per cent (including 60 per cent of Fianna Fail voters) believe Ahern should remain as Taoiseach, if it's shown he lied under oath to the Tribunal. On the face of it, perjury gets the thumbs up from a sizable swathe of the electorate!

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    FF support is fickle. In 2004 it slumped to 32%, days before the election this year it was 5% down.

    If Ahern is found out, the economy slumps, the electorate finally becomes sick of looking at the same tired faces you could see FF down considerably.

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