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    Quote Originally Posted by jenniferstinkrotten View Post
    This is ridiculous, everyone is behaving in a very negative manner about the release of this document. The irony is that if they not publish any budget proposals you'd all be highlighting that fact.

    People have to forget the past and move on.. FF is now a new entity under new leadership with new thinking.
    No we wouldn't. Nothing ye say is relevant so your better off shutting up than annoying people.
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    If FF produced no budget proposals, and much as I am loathe to give them credit for anything, I'd be thinking "at least they had the cop-on to keep their mouths shut".

    FF producing a bugdet proposal is the equivalent of Jack the Ripper applying for a job down your local surgery.
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    isn't the government policy, really FFs policy?
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    We agreed to a 2%VAT increase last November but now that we're in opposition we're opposing it. And .. er.. that's it.. end of budget submission.
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    It would be interesting to see the alternative budget proposals produced by the Labour Party and FG when FF were in government.

    Oppositions have a duty not only to criticise government proposals, but to outline their alternatives.

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    It's not in the past, the mistakes they made, as we are still in the middle of the mess they put us in, they wrote out the four year plan, at the time there should have being a election , and what government came in, should have been the ones to write and present the plan. Now their saying they can do better? Well the country is broke thanks to them, and a bit of super glue holding the pieces together won't make a difference, either will FF, the only fire left in their belly is being used on SF ! To fight for being the main opposition party!
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    So my thoughts on the main points;
    · 224,000 to be exempt from universal social charge while increasing rate for those earning €115,000
    Agreed on keeping the low paid out (to give them an incentive to work). I think the higher rate should kick in at €90k (three times the AIW).

    · Greater pension reductions for retired public servants, politicians
    Great, but I would go even further than FF propose and cap all public service pensions at €60k

    · No VAT increase
    I would go for a VAT reduction and fund it from the money raised above.

    · €250m more for capital expenditure in 2012 for labour intensive projects
    That's a drop in the ocean but probably all that we can afford.

    · Scrap private pension levy in favour of €5.6 billion investment stimulus.
    Good move, just needs to be policed properly.

    · Accelerated implementation of Croke Park savings
    Scrap the bloody thing and bring in compulsory redundancies, a ban on paid overtime and a across the board 10% salary cut..

    · Establishment of an Economic Advisory Council
    Not another Quango.

    · Double the budget for County and City Enterprise Boards
    Only after they have a demonstrated ability to create value add jobs.

    · Complete the review of bankers’ pay in guaranteed banks
    DOH!

    · 20,000 extra local employment scheme places
    Fine, it's a start.

    What's missing;
    Welfare cuts and threshold adjustments.
    Re-introduction of third level fees.
    A better mechanism to monitor and tax our tax exiles.
    A Quango cull.
    Commitment to the Limerick-Cork motorway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenniferstinkrotten View Post
    This is ridiculous, everyone is behaving in a very negative manner about the release of this document. The irony is that if they not publish any budget proposals you'd all be highlighting that fact.

    People have to forget the past and move on.. FF is now a new entity under new leadership with new thinking.
    You really think Jews should have forgotten the Holocaust during the Nuremburg trials?

    Sod off. You're party through it's corruption, avarace and downright idiocy brought this country to it's knees. It would be a crime of conscience for any citizen to forget what you've done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenniferstinkrotten View Post
    This is ridiculous, everyone is behaving in a very negative manner about the release of this document. The irony is that if they not publish any budget proposals you'd all be highlighting that fact.

    People have to forget the past and move on.. FF is now a new entity under new leadership with new thinking.
    I'll forget the past when you pay the share of the debt I have been placed under for the banks.
    “Inflation is taxation without legislation”

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