The decline and death of Fianna Fáil

[jo9jo]

Maybe the party will recover after all

[jmcc]

Its like watching Colley v Haughey.

Nah. They were politicians. This is like watching the dueling banjos scene from the movie Deliverance.

Regards...jmcc

[loner]

Nearly gone now I think--when Larry the lad who epitomises everything that FF stands for is so ashamed of the party that he would prefer to seek higher office under an independant banner you must conclude that the only thing left for FF is the funeral.

[loner]

He prefers to lead through committee and report though. Always has, thats why he was successful in all his ministries

Good sense of humour

[anfieldabff]

Oh yeah? Interesting.

CJH first became leader in 1979. In December 1979 that is. So either you're spoofing a little in your efforts to blame FF for your families woes. Or it all went wrong in that...what was it...31 days (much of which were the Christmas holidays)!

If you were born in Anfield, fair enough - assumed it was a reference to the football club as if you live here it's a little unusual that you would still define yourself by some place in Britain where you were born. If you're still in Anfield, next time you're over, buy a book on Irish history!

And why exactly would I not define myself by where I was born? I may have Irish parents and have an interest in Irish politics. But I am English and proud of the fact, I lived there for the first 23 years of my life before getting a job over here. I still think that the FF party is the worst thing that has ever happened to Ireland. The mantra seems to be me first, party second and country nowhere, the most scandalous misuse of the English language is that you call yourselves a Republican party.

[Marcos the black]

Without FF there would be one dominant party and any government would be quite fragmented and unstable. I'm no fan, but I'd rather see them there than gone. I think Martin is a gentleman who wants to do things the right way - this is totally at odds with the FF culture and he probably won't succeed.

Without FF parties to the left would rise in support to fill the void, and we would have non civil war left/right divide, and maybe then we could get on with things in a more non tribalistc approach. God knows we need it....

[NewGoldDream]

But I am English and proud of the fact, I lived there for the first 23 years of my life before getting a job over here. I still think that the FF party is the worst thing that has ever happened to Ireland.

Fair play. Though if you are not interested in the football club you should know that most here will make an assumption about your loyalties.

I think you mean very slight interest. If you really thought CJH led the country through the late 70s.

I have a passing in British politics myself. Like enough to hate the Tories. Even though Thatcher did lead the country through the swinging 60s... ;-)

[Con Gallagher]

John O'Donoghue on getting abuse from a good looking girl during the ejection "what's the point of being that beautiful if you're that ugly underneath".

[hammer]

If voters like 'new' FF, where does that leave the old-school Martin? - Analysis, Opinion - Independent.ie

Looks like Mehole could have been spooFFing again.

1,200 grass root supporters at 3 meetings around the country













Two words












My bolli*

[Chrisco]

I am quite pleased with last week's results for that reason: Martin is safe and no lessons will be learned. He is the William Hague of Fianna Fail.