The decline and death of Fianna Fáil

[CanRonPaulSavetheUS]

Actually the analysis done on the political demise of Obama is eerily similiar to the predicted demise of FF.

I guess the only thing that can save FF is an Irish Sarah Palin.

Have a read of real foresight

Palin = McCain knows he is in trouble

Post #7

[tonic]

Actually the analysis done on the political demise of Obama is eerily similiar to the predicted demise of FF.

I guess the only thing that can save FF is an Irish Sarah Palin.

Have a read of real foresight

Palin = McCain knows he is in trouble

Post #7

Interesting stuff.

Do you think that a case could be made that there is a relationship between how many words he uses and how wrong he's going to be?

[RobertW]

FF is not any ordinary Party, it is a Founding Party.

DNA and all that ..

A founding party of what exactly?

[CanRonPaulSavetheUS]

So I am not wishing ill on the party.

I knew Tommy was part Nostrodamus but never realised till now he was part Mother Theresa as well.

A man of true honesty.

Can you expand on this a bit

[RobertW]

I knew Tommy was part Nostrodamus but never realised till now he was part Mother Theresa as well.

A man of true honesty.

Can you expand on this a bit

I was in NY in 2005 and picked up Obama's Audacity of Hope in a branch of Barnes & Noble.

Turned to a mate of mine and showed him the book:

"Do you know who he is?. . . He'll be US President"

It was very obvious even then

[CanRonPaulSavetheUS]

Well you should have told Tommy, he thought McCain was going to trounce him because McCain picked Sarah Palin in an inspired move

[ne0ica]

FF will survive, albeit as a small party. It will still around like the UUP in the North.

[Barnsleyfc]

FF will survive, albeit as a small party. It will still around like the UUP in the North.

I'd say that's about right.

[berkeley]

Tommy, not only were you a member of FG, you worked for FG and probably still do, unless they've got sense in the meantime.

Your opinions on FF are as useful and as valued as a fart in a spacesuit.

...and he keeps using that photo which makes p.ie look like a gay dating site

[goatstoe]

as long as FG are around FF will be around.

That's it in a nutshell. To all intents and purposes FG and FF are one and the same. As the demographic of the electorate has moved on, the majority of them appear to recognise that there's little between the two. To stick with one brand over the other because of family allegiance or whatever is becoming increasingly irrelevant. A sizeable chunk of the electorate have just switched brands from FF to FG, like Coca Cola to Pepsi. A part of Labour's vote makes up this conservative block too, but in the main it applies to FF/FG. In the current circumstances that spells trouble for FF.

The FF brand were unlucky somewhat to have won that 3rd election under Ahern - due to Kenny's FG ineptitude - and now they are floundering facing a new reality where the ground has been taken from under them, mainly by FG. Under remotely normal circumstances they may have come back, if FG become hugely unpopular. However what's happening now is not normal circumstances and FF could well go by the wayside, or at best end up being a 3rd force in Irish politics much like the Liberal Party did in England.