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About LinkBacksHe is being a neutral commentator if Cowns comments dont hold water...Originally Posted by madura
As you describe it, it sounds as though George Lee was being less than a neutral commentator. [/i]
He is being a neutral commentator if Cowns comments dont hold water...As you describe it, it sounds as though George Lee was being less than a neutral commentator. [/i]
to change Ireland from a dependent to a self-reliant society — from a give-it-to-me, to a do-it-yourself nation. A get-up-and-go, instead of a sit-back-and-wait-for-it ireland
I think he is making some good points and came great. From an FF point of view its about time someone come out and took a grip of this election and forced home the points we want to make.
What he is saying is correct there are question marks of the FGLAB economic plans Kenny himself admitted it. While it is true that this Government hasn't a clean record in this area elections are about the future and FGLAB have only respond with soundbites so far.
He is not supposed to be neutral. He was asked to comment upon the substance of what was said.As you describe it, it sounds as though George Lee was being less than a neutral commentator.
To the amateur, it sounded like Cowen won the debate because he shouted more.
To anyone familiar with debating, Bruton won as his arguments were the ones supported by the impartial observer (Lee).
Don't forget that he is trying to heat up his BBQ !!, Undercooking will give him the runs
Sorry lads as a neutral in the debate I felt Cowan wiped the floor with Bruton, Bruton was unable to refute Cowan or challenge him in an effective way. Cowan gave me a greater sense of being on top of his brief Bruton was cowering by the end. For me that was a FF win by a mile and if he can repeat this it will seriously undermine FGs case for change.
[quote=White Horse]He is not supposed to be neutral. He was asked to comment upon the substance of what was said.As you describe it, it sounds as though George Lee was being less than a neutral commentator.
To the amateur, it sounded like Cowen won the debate because he shouted more.
To anyone familiar with debating, Bruton won as his arguments were the ones supported by the impartial observer (Lee).[/quote:3lq7883w]
Those type of amateurs probably don't listen to rte news at one.
Sounds to me like a rallying call to soft FFers who were thinking of switching to SF or of staying home.
I know opinions are subjective but if you two posts, this one and one where you state that o Gorman will do well in Wexford.....Are you FT?
to change Ireland from a dependent to a self-reliant society — from a give-it-to-me, to a do-it-yourself nation. A get-up-and-go, instead of a sit-back-and-wait-for-it ireland
Can someone change the name of this thread (Freakout) is not exactly a fair reflection
Everyone with any leadership ambition in FF is already running for election as party leader. How do you run for party leader with Bertie still in place? Defend him and the party in the most over the top, bully boy fashion. The more indefensible the position, the more they love you for it.
He is not trying to appeal to non-FF voters otherwise he would not be behaving like this. He knows that the election is lost; at most he is trying to consolidate the FF core vote about their core value of loyalty to the party. His only real interest is in his next election which will be for leader of FF.
There are times when you are simply required to be impolite. There are times when condescension is called for!
- Aaron Sorkin writing as President Bartlet to Obama, NYT 21/09/2008
You can't build a smart economy based on dumb decisions.
- Richard Bruton 18/12/2008
Problem being that FFers are falling in numbers.
He may well drum out more of the FF vote but he is definitely damaging his leadership prospects here. FF knows electability. Dermot Ahern and Mary Hanafin must be loving it.
I am a floating voter. Without us, it's a dictatorship!
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