Reality , there is no alternative to Fianna Fail

[thetruthsback]

There will be about 13 candidates in Galway west, 3 of them FFailures.
I will go all the way down the ticket except for FF and SF, ever since the day I cast my first vote. maFFia are the problem with this country, the only answer is to get them out.

I am voting for FF because the alternative is worse

[jcdf]

Over the past few months, it has been noticeable that those posting on P.ie are simply bashing Fianna Fail without putting forward any credible alternative policies. The fundamental question still remains, why did Labour and Fine Gael not cry halt at the last general election? Remember the Shinners wanted to raise corporation tax at the last general election. Where were those parties policies on regulating the banks three years ago? Before the legion of Shinner trolls jump in here, what about those recent educational spending cuts in the North, liars, liars. The opposition needs a dose of reality. It is hard decisions we need now not popularism

I am mostly in agreement with you thetruthsback. The so called opposition parties have proven themselves incapable of taking tough decisions. They are not opposition parties only alternative parties. If they had been in power during the Celtic Tiger they would have done not one significant thing differently to FF. Of this I have no doubt.

However FF must be punished for what they have done and voting them out is the only thing I can think of. Of course this is still no solution since the opposition parties will have to enact the 'four year plan' written by FF. Doing this will surely cause them to loose the election after next allowing FF to sneak back in.

[Padraigin]

To say that FF single handily caused the current economic downfall is a lie.

Nope. Hard truth.

There is no economic downfall except the one that is being driectly caused by treasonous FF government policies.

First, the bank guarantee to protect cronies in the banking sector and to keep prying eyes away from incirminating bank records.

Then, selling the Irish people into debt servitude and destroying the Irish economy to pay reparations to foreign investors who would otherwise face the normal consequences of bad investment decisions.

With luck, many in the current government may one day face long prison sentences. It coudl not happen to a more deserving bunch of crooks.

[turdsl]

What rubbish. Labour and Fine Gael had nothing in their manifestos in the last elections in relation to changing the way revenue was raised in this state. By the time the election comes around the inadequacies of the oppositions parties will be exposed . To say that FF single handily caused the current economic downfall is a lie.

You miss the point. over 80%of the people say F.F must go, Any government that had to bring in the IMF are failures, any government that refuses the people the right to vote have disgraced the people who fought and died for our Independence. Brian Lenihan has taken money of the blind twice in the one year.The former Toiseach and present Toiseach have made the office a laughing stock around the world. The people of this country deserve respect,they have not got it from this government. They must call an election and let the electorate judge them now.

[thetruthsback]

I am mostly in agreement with you thetruthsback. The so called opposition parties have proven themselves incapable of taking tough decisions. They are not opposition parties only alternative parties. If they had been in power during the Celtic Tiger they would have done not one significant thing differently to FF. Of this I have no doubt.

However FF must be punished for what they have done and voting them out is the only thing I can think of. Of course this is still no solution since the opposition parties will have to enact the 'four year plan' written by FF. Doing this will surely cause them to loose the election after next allowing FF to sneak back in.

Punishing FF will only allow a dysfunctional coalition to take power. Remember the mid-80's, Labour and FG what a disaster. Expect the new partnership to be paralysed by in decision too

[Sailor]

Nope. Hard truth.

There is no economic downfall except the one that is being driectly caused by treasonous FF government policies.

First, the bank guarantee to protect cronies in the banking sector and to keep prying eyes away from incirminating bank records.

Then, selling the Irish people into debt servitude and destroying the Irish economy to pay reparations to foreign investors who would otherwise face the normal consequences of bad investment decisions.

With luck, many in the current government may one day face long prison sentences. It coudl not happen to a more deserving bunch of crooks.

This just goes to show how confused people have become - what you list here as the causes of the economic crisis are actually the corrective actions being taken by the government. The real blame is properly apportioned between Banks, Regulators, Developers and Government and last, but not least, those of us who participated in the property nonsense and general credit free for all. The primary offenders were the banks and whatever blame should be attached to the government is in the area of economic policy during the period when the crisis was actually developing, not in respect of their actions in dealing with the problems. And there is little doubt that FG would have pursued the same policies - both in creating the crisis and in resolving it.

[Edo]

Punishing FF will only allow a dysfunctional coalition to take power. Remember the mid-80's, Labour and FG what a disaster. Expect the new partnership to be paralysed by in decision too

What if FG offered a coalition deal to FF?

I would say that FG will probably take 65+ seats and FF about 30odd at the next election - it would be a solid majority looking roughly the same direction economically and would be able see out the 4 year plan.

FG have not categorically ruled out coalition with anybody

Lets face it - FF are not going to be in any position to be the main party of any government after the next election - so would they consider joining FG in government after the next election? - in the national interest and all that?

As regards the rest -would the opposition have done any better - well thats just whataboutery now - irrelevant - we are where we are - well the party that is in government when the sh^t hits the fan is always the party who gets blamed for the sh^t happening in the first place - as the Greens are finding out - tough titties on that one - i thought FF would have bailed out in 2008 - the auld political antennas must have been out of commission at the time.

[thetruthsback]

You miss the point. over 80%of the people say F.F must go, Any government that had to bring in the IMF are failures, any government that refuses the people the right to vote have disgraced the people who fought and died for our Independence. Brian Lenihan has taken money of the blind twice in the one year.The former Toiseach and present Toiseach have made the office a laughing stock around the world. The people of this country deserve respect,they have not got it from this government. They must call an election and let the electorate judge them now.

Ah hang on. So labour and Fine Gael at the last election cried halt. I don't remember Labour or Fine Gael looking for any increases in income tax, replacing the stamp duty with a property tax and a water charge, any mention, ah no. Do me a favour. The current crisis was caused by greed of all the people in this state including Fianna Fail. As for those who fought for independence most of them feathered their own caps too.

[JandK]

On the contrary I find the alternative most appealing compared to FF.

Then again I'd find a cage of budgies more appealing compared to FF. And before oggy appears to denounce my apparent ABFF views, if FF want my support, and the support of the majority once more, they have to earn it. Currently, they aren't.

[thetruthsback]

This just goes to show how confused people have become - what you list here as the causes of the economic crisis are actually the corrective actions being taken by the government. The real blame is properly apportioned between Banks, Regulators, Developers and Government and last, but not least, those of us who participated in the property nonsense and general credit free for all. The primary offenders were the banks and whatever blame should be attached to the government is in the area of economic policy during the period when the crisis was actually developing, not in respect of their actions in dealing with the problems. And there is little doubt that FG would have pursued the same policies - both in creating the crisis and in resolving it.

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