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    Can Fianna Fáil call themselves a National Movement?

    A Fianna Fáil election newspaper was delivered free with last weeks Meath Chronicle. In this newspaper FF claimed to be a National Movement. Most people I know (even FFs) would not say that the Irish Nation stops at the border. However as FF do stop at the border how can they call themselves a National Movement?

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    They have a loose definition of what constitutes a movement, and a nation.
    They like to wrap themselves in the flag every now and then, and also like to delude themselves that they are the sole architects of peace in our country.
    Every now and then they like to paint FG as Unionists, Free-staters, and give the aura that it was FG who sold the country down the tubes in 1922, and if only Dev had been in charge, it would have been alright.
    Up until SF became acceptable, it was populated with Republican sympathisers, who didnt have the guts or the nerve to throw their oar in with SF. Their most common form of resistance to the British was viewing the conflict from a barstool, with the 'Tones on on the jukebox. Them Blueshirts were to be treated with the contempt their lickspittling to the Brits and Unionists they deserved.
    Now that they have gone to SF, the remaining FF'ers are looking a bit nrevously at the coming green tide, so are reasserting their Republicanism again.
    Of course, the fact that they are not Republicans, and are in fact constitutional nationalists, means that the term 'Republican' is to them, nothing more than a term.

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    Isn't there a Fianna Fáil branch in Derry ?
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    Well, the Greens have more elected reps. in the North than FF. Draw your own conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gombeen
    Well, the Greens have more elected reps. in the North than FF. Draw your own conclusions.
    Cant you read? They have a cumann in Derry, for Gods sake.
    And they're the Republican party.
    It says it on their posters. And their posters are Green.
    I mean, Jesus.

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    Fiann Fail are not a republican party, infact as far as republicanism goes they are the inactive republican government of ireland which makes them traitors to the people who created the Republic of Ireland.
    Whoever controls the most power in the ROI has an obligation to the people they left behind in the north to the orange loyalist state.
    Northern Ireland isnt jjust my problem because i happen to live here.
    Its an unsolved problem that the irish republic is responsible for as those who voted for the creation of the free state and the partition done so on the fact that they were promised the irish government would use its power to end partition.

    Sound like Fianna Fail? i wouldnt think so!
    Theyve done more for the partition of ireland than Ian Paisley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Quote Originally Posted by Gombeen
    Well, the Greens have more elected reps. in the North than FF. Draw your own conclusions.
    Cant you read? They have a cumann in Derry, for Gods sake.
    And they're the Republican party.
    It says it on their posters. And their posters are Green.
    I mean, Jesus.
    Yes thanks for the clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st333ve
    Fiann Fail are not a republican party, infact as far as republicanism goes they are the inactive republican government of ireland which makes them traitors to the people who created the Republic of Ireland.
    Whoever controls the most power in the ROI has an obligation to the people they left behind in the north to the orange loyalist state.
    Northern Ireland isnt jjust my problem because i happen to live here.
    Its an unsolved problem that the irish republic is responsible for as those who voted for the creation of the free state and the partition done so on the fact that they were promised the irish government would use its power to end partition.

    Sound like Fianna Fail? i wouldnt think so!
    Theyve done more for the partition of ireland than Ian Paisley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st333ve
    Fiann Fail are not a republican party, infact as far as republicanism goes they are the inactive republican government of ireland which makes them traitors to the people who created the Republic of Ireland.
    Whoever controls the most power in the ROI has an obligation to the people they left behind in the north to the orange loyalist state.
    Northern Ireland isnt jjust my problem because i happen to live here.
    Its an unsolved problem that the irish republic is responsible for as those who voted for the creation of the free state and the partition done so on the fact that they were promised the irish government would use its power to end partition.

    Sound like Fianna Fail? i wouldnt think so!
    Theyve done more for the partition of ireland than Ian Paisley.
    They havent done more for partition than Paisley, because they havent done anything at all. Nothing. Zip.
    Can we get a FF'er on to educate me on what FF have done to end partition since 1932?

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    The people of Northern Ireland are not Irish. They are either Northern Irish or British. The Irish nation stops at the border. Therefore FF could loosly be described as a national movement.
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