CJ Haughey - the legacy will live forever

[toughbutfair]

Haughey has poisoned the political life of this country now for over a generation.

Besides, whether at the end of this recession there will be anything left of the unsustainable boom his policies first put into motion (on the back of the prudence of predecessors, the patriotically responsible behaviour of the opposition and the indulgent patience of our European partners) is an open question.

The extent to which the boom improved the quality of life of the average Irish citizen is also very much open to question.

His predecessors were a disaster. FG/lab were dreadful (even Dukes the then minister of Finance admitted they dragged out the recession by not taking the tough decisions due to Labour's cosy relationship with the unions). Other predecessors including Haughey's earlier reigns were also terrible. Practically ever government (bar Lemass) mismanaged the government.

Haughey stopped the slide.

[FakeViking]

The fact the boom was mismanaged doesnt' take away the fact that Haughey took the country from being on its knees to being ready to boom.

Another good display of why the head shops need to be regulated!

[toughbutfair]

Another good display of why the head shops need to be regulated!

What's your point?

[Nugget]

He was a crook but don't forget that this country was on its knees in 1987 and Haughey led one of the gratest governments we ever had to turn around the economy and get us ready for the boom that followed.

Are you joking? All that '87-'89 government did was take bribes from developers and rezone land for them.

[Toland]

The fact the boom was mismanaged doesnt' take away the fact that Haughey took the country from being on its knees to being ready to boom.

The ideology behind the Haughey boom precluded the boom from being managed. The mismanagement of the boom consisted in continuing with Haugheyite policies. Whether these policies amounted to anything more than a nation-sized pyramid scheme based on financial deregulation and property fire-stoking remains an open question.

And the firm ground upon which the boom took off was laid by the relatively responsible management of the exchequer by FG/Lab coalitions.

[toxic avenger]

Haughey has poisoned the political life of this country now for over a generation.

Besides, whether at the end of this recession there will be anything left of the unsustainable boom his policies first put into motion (on the back of the prudence of predecessors, the patriotically responsible behaviour of the opposition and the indulgent patience of our European partners) is an open question.

The extent to which the boom improved the quality of life of the average Irish citizen is also very much open to question.

Don't you wish you believed in hell?...

[toughbutfair]

The ideology behind the Haughey boom precluded the boom from being managed. The mismanagement of the boom consisted in continuing with Haugheyite policies. Whether these policies amounted to anything more than a nation-sized pyramid scheme based on financial deregulation and property fire-stoking remains an open question.

And the firm ground upon which the boom took off was laid by the relatively responsible management of the exchequer by FG/Lab coalitions.

Haughey got the unions and government and employers together at a time of high strikes, inflation, unemployement and debt. He got a deal together, he was also behind the IFSC and Temple Bar. The country got its act together under him and manufacturing companies set up here creating work for ordinary people.

FG/Lab doubled the national debt.

[toxic avenger]

Haughey got the unions and government and employers together at a time of high strikes, inflation, unemployement and debt. He got a deal together, he was also behind the IFSC and Temple Bar. The country got its act together under him and manufacturing companies set up here creating work for ordinary people.

FG/Lab doubled the national debt.

It was MacSharry, with a little help from Alan Dukes. Haughey had a track record of doing sod all - see the period from 1979 to 1982.

[toughbutfair]

It was MacSharry, with a little help from Alan Dukes. Haughey had a track record of doing sod all - see the period from 1979 to 1982.

I've acknowledged that was a bad government and specifically referred to his 1987 one. The country is lucky he was there (yes, I know he was a crook). He did a great job matched only by Lemass.

I am a big fan of MacSharry and have no idea why the current government don't point out how his short term pain resulted in long term gain.

I also agree Dukes did a really patriotic thing in constructive opposition.

[taurus]

CJH's legacy was in greatest student Bertie Ahern...Even CJH did not
trust him either...

The most cunning and the most devious of yhem ALL, CJ Haughey on his Protege, Bertie Ahern.