Page 2 of 8 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 76

Thread: Competitiveness (National)

  1. #11
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    26 Counties
    Posts
    983

    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Ireland shows no interest in being autarkic , thus we want "stuff" from the outside

    The ways to get this stuff are money

    The ways to get money are
    1) Export goods/services at a profit
    2) A special case of 1 above: attract foreign companies to set up here

    In both cases this requires us to compete globally , indeed Ireland is referred to as a hyper-open economy

    The simple metric of such competition is unit cost of product. So say a cap in Poland making 20 widgets a day for a salary of €50 is less competitive than a chap in Ireland making 40 widgets a day for a salary of €90.
    I asked for help for the economically illiterate of us out here.Ever hear of the principle of Occums Razor?
    There are also stickier human capital factors - such as the existing skill pool of the labour force. Some people (mistakenly) believe education is the primary human capital factor... it ain't , experience is. So for example we've tens of thousands of people employed in back-middle office funds administration jobs in Dublin. They earn a salary above the median (thus cause net cash flow into the country) - and Dublin's pool of experience means it is far more attractive than say Paris or Warsaw.[COLOR="Silver"] (and of course natural capital (geography , natural resources) plays a part)[/COLOR]

    Over the past number of years endogenous costs have gotten too high and these are having knock on effects. The two internal drivers of the costs going too high were
    1) PS Pay bubble
    2) Construction bubble

    As result all other costs were inflated to artificial height. The bubbles are burst(ing) so we need an orderly wage contraction, pretty much across the board.

    (I'm not a FFer btw)

    cYp
    I asked for a definition for the economically illerate of us out here.Ever hear of the principle of Occums Razor?
    The Labour Party is a "betrayal to it's principles and objectives"(Pat Rabbitte)

  2. #12
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    872

    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    ...
    As result all other costs were inflated to artificial height. The bubbles are burst(ing) so we need an orderly wage contraction, pretty much across the board.
    ...
    The problem is the massive mortgage debts we've incurred.
    Even in the good times, many were overstretched and a significant wage contraction will drive them into insolvency.
    We no longer have the option of allowing our banks to declare bankruptcy, so somebody or something in Ireland will have to pay off the mortgage capital they borrowed from abroad - but who and with what money?

  3. #13
    Politics.ie Regular cyberianpan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Wherever I can see
    Posts
    23,113

    Quote Originally Posted by devnull View Post
    The problem is the massive mortgage debts we've incurred.
    Even in the good times, many were overstretched and a significant wage contraction will drive them into insolvency.
    We no longer have the option of allowing our banks to declare bankruptcy, so somebody or something in Ireland will have to pay off the mortgage capital they borrowed from abroad - but who and with what money?
    Indeed



    http://www.politics.ie/economy/96960...-defaults.html

    cYp
    "Yawn , am I alive yet ?"

  4. #14
    Politics.ie Member hammer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Upton Park
    Posts
    24,374

    We also need tourism. Getting foreigners to spend their hard earned $ € £ in Ireland. Do away with the travel tax immediately and reduce taxes / charges levied by DAA etc.

    Get the tourists in now.

  5. #15
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    26 Counties
    Posts
    983

    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Any chance you might get back to addressing "Competitiveness"?
    The Labour Party is a "betrayal to it's principles and objectives"(Pat Rabbitte)

  6. #16
    Politics.ie Member hammer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Upton Park
    Posts
    24,374

    Maybe change the word "NATIONAL" to "notional"

  7. #17
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    26 Counties
    Posts
    983

    "2) A special case of 1 above: attract foreign companies to set up here"
    Since you brought up FDI,you might explain its forms and how Ireland compares with other countries in attraching FDI
    The Labour Party is a "betrayal to it's principles and objectives"(Pat Rabbitte)

  8. #18
    Politics.ie Regular cyberianpan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Wherever I can see
    Posts
    23,113

    Quote Originally Posted by pjoz View Post
    Any chance you might get back to addressing "Competitiveness"?
    I did - and my post was perfectly clear

    davehiggz's short version posted above is also adequate and well put

    cYp
    "Yawn , am I alive yet ?"

  9. #19
    Politics.ie Regular
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    26 Counties
    Posts
    983

    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    I did - and my post was perfectly clear

    davehiggz's short version posted above is also adequate and well put

    cYp
    Your a complete spoofer.davehiggz's hasnt a notion but I thought you might provide some substance.Where exactly have you gathered your economic expertise may I ask? You might also explain FDI for us?
    The Labour Party is a "betrayal to it's principles and objectives"(Pat Rabbitte)

  10. #20
    Politics.ie Regular cyberianpan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Wherever I can see
    Posts
    23,113

    Quote Originally Posted by pjoz View Post
    Your a complete spoofer.davehiggz's hasnt a notion but I thought you might provide some substance.Where exactly have you gathered your economic expertise may I ask? You might also explain FDI for us?
    If you're going to ask a question... and then fail to address the answers, instead choosing to be impolite... you're really not worth speaking to

    You need to learn some manners

    cYp
    "Yawn , am I alive yet ?"

Page 2 of 8 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 19
    Last Post: 10th February 2010, 09:37 AM
  2. Ireland losing competitiveness
    By mmrebel in forum Economy
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 8th September 2009, 02:32 PM
  3. We are regaining competitiveness
    By imported_Déise in forum Economy
    Replies: 53
    Last Post: 13th June 2009, 04:57 PM
  4. German competitiveness warning
    By pete2 in forum Europe
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10th April 2009, 10:44 AM
  5. Economic competitiveness suggestions
    By patslatt in forum Economy
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 21st August 2007, 03:55 PM