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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fusilier View Post
    There've been a few names thrown about, but I haven't seen Killeen mentioned.
    It has been mentioned a few times in the media. The mid west needs a Minister

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    Do we really need one?
    The Labour Party is a "betrayal to it's principles and objectives"(Pat Rabbitte)

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    Probably not. Dermot Early seems to be doing a good job as the Commander in Chief. Would save the State about €500k minimum per annum

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    Why not merge Defence and Justice----Dermot Ahern could do both jobs effectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer View Post
    Probably not. Dermot Early seems to be doing a good job as the Commander in Chief. Would save the State about €500k minimum per annum
    Dermot Earley is Chief of Staff of the DF, answerable to the elected government through the Minister of Defence.

    Defence Forces - Organisation

    President Mary McAleese is Commander in Chief, a purely ceremonial title.

    Ireland is a democracy and in any democracy you need the military under the control of the elected civilian government. That is why we need a Minister for Defence at the Cabinet table.

    Christ, the level of stupidity on this site is staggering. Does anyone check their facts before they post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loner View Post
    Why not merge Defence and Justice----Dermot Ahern could do both jobs effectively.
    Because they are separate organisations doing separate functions in separate circumstances under separate rules.

    Keep civilian policing and justice separate from the military.

    That's why we have and need separate minister for Justice and Defence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nugget View Post
    Martin Ferris should be next minister for defense
    But can he handle a gun like Willie...
    Europa Conventus Delenda Est

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy Jack View Post
    Dermot Earley is Chief of Staff of the DF, answerable to the elected government through the Minister of Defence.

    Defence Forces - Organisation

    President Mary McAleese is Commander in Chief, a purely ceremonial title.

    Ireland is a democracy and in any democracy you need the military under the control of the elected civilian government. That is why we need a Minister for Defence at the Cabinet table.

    Christ, the level of stupidity on this site is staggering. Does anyone check their facts before they post?
    Ireland also has a Government that is meant to Govern, not get tasty little dig outs ( ) and get suitcases full of sterling to buy a house ( )

    It also appoints friends to senior positions on Boards solely because they are friends of TDs and not because of any other qualification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer View Post
    Ireland also has a Government that is meant to Govern, not get tasty little dig outs ( ) and get suitcases full of sterling to buy a house ( )

    It also appoints friends to senior positions on Boards solely because they are friends of TDs and not because of any other qualification.
    And what the hell has that to do with having a Minister of Defence? When Enda puts together the next Govt he'll still have to appoint a Minister of Defence - which will still has ******************** all to do with your guff.

    As I said, the stupidity on this site gets worse. Do you even think before you thump the keyboard or is it just the first idiot thought that comes to mind that ends up here?

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    The "majority rule" is often described as a characteristic feature of democracy, but without [COLOR="Red"]responsible government [/COLOR]or constitutional protections of individual liberties from democratic power it is possible for dissenting individuals to be oppressed by the "tyranny of the majority".

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