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    the area where most people would have come across this proliferation phenomenon among charities in Ireland has to do with homelessness, not least in Dublin.

    In 2014 staff costs at the four main homeless agencies in the city absorbed all funds, more in instances, granted them by the State for the provision of homelessness services.
    Dublin Simon, the Peter McVerry Trust, Depaul Ireland and Focus Ireland received a total of €33.6 million in grants from State agencies in 2014, but spent €35.8 million on staff costs for on the 875 people they employed in 2014 (the last year for which complete figures are available for all).

    In Dublin there are eight organisations involved with the homeless, Dublin Simon, the Peter McVerry Trust, Depaul Ireland, Focus Ireland, Novas, the Salvation Army, Crosscare, and the YMCA.

    Each has its own management team, its own chief executive/directors, policy teams, buildings managers, health and counselling teams, and training programmes.
    The Irish Times has looked at figures for the four major homeless agencies in the city, Dublin Simon, the Peter McVerry Trust, Depaul Ireland and Focus Ireland.

    In 2014, Dublin Simon’s total income was €12,519,761. It received €6,194,218 from the State. Its “average number of employees” was 188 at a total cost of €7,420,022, including wages and salaries, social security and pension.

    Its chief executive, Sam McGuinness, was on a salary of €93,338 a year, with five employees altogether on over €70,000 per annum. In 2014, Dublin Simon also spent €84,980 on “motor vehicles”.

    The Peter McVerry Trust had a total income of €10,656,737 in 2014, of which €6,842,691 came from the State. It employed 146 employees in 2014 at a cost of just under €8.1 million.

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    Parliament Gates by Alan Cooke
    A wisp of a man passes ghostly away
    His last breath annihilated by Dublin traffic
    Cold bones and a weeping heart, her grand streets twinkling with greed,
    In old rags holding back time in alleyways
    Memories of childhood dimmed by the rain,
    Our human brother wasted outside Parliament Gates

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    Originally Posted by HereWeGoAgain
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    Parliament Gates by Alan Cooke



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    Are you aware of facts of the Johnathon Corrie case? You do know that he sold 2 houses that others had bought for him? His was a tragedy of drug addiction, not homelessness.
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    Nationalization of houses and flats left un-used for more than a year would be great start.
    more communism so , you are not into property rights or things like that ?
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    Originally Posted by saab900
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    Are you aware of facts of the Johnathon Corrie case? You do know that he sold 2 houses that others had bought for him? His was a tragedy of drug addiction, not homelessness.
    Homeless is more than people upping and walking out of there accommodation , a lot of single men and women that are homeless have underlying conditions , like drug /alcohol addiction ,mental illness .
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    Originally Posted by Kommunist
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    I don't think anybody really cares about the opinion of somebody who supports the Labour Party, particularly commenting on homelessness.


    And why would anyone listen to Stalinist like you going on about homelessness? Housing in socialist states was a disaster, unless of course they were colonising NKVD like your folks who stole someone's house in the Baltics and sent the actual owners to die in a camp.

    It's a bit like having a neo Nazi lecture on prison reform
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    While I applaud the sentiment and also the fact that this issue is now to the forefront of the media as a result, homelessness and rough sleeping are two different things. I can't see families moving into Apollo house. There are also many reasons why some choose to sleep rough. Yes, choose. Extra beds are great but Peter McVerry knows what he is talking about.
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    It shows how useless FF, FG and Labour are as a govt for failing to meet the basic needs of large sections of the population that the charities have to be set up in the first place. Particularly over the past two decades, they have presided over where the building of social housing has been all but abandoned.

    The idea is to build 30% social housing, 20% "affordable" housing and 50% private housing, knowing full well that the property bubble created by FF has increased the cost of housing so much that no-one can afford so called "affordable" housing any more.

    It is rent and mortgages that have everyone struggling. When did rent/mortgages suddenly become exactly half the total of their income? This is why people working 40+ hours a week have no money left at the end of a month. Everyone spouting on about bus drivers, gardaí, and nurses needing a pay rise to meet their basic costs, and how they are the highest paid in Europe when there is nowhere in Europe that has the housing prices that Ireland has. Everyone on low wages, whether it be public or private sector, needs a pay rise. If housing wasn't so expensive then we would have more disposable income.

    Instead, our government chooses to bail out the banks, pay off the bondholders, enable MNCs to use loopholes, then when Europe says we are owed 13 Billion (19 Billion with interest) by Apple, fight that action tooth and nail with taxpayers money to save face. The only thing our Govt disagreed with regarding Europe, when it came to paying back the debt, the govt were and still are offering up all our arses. When Europe want to give back money, the govt fight it tooth and nail. We must have the most extreme right wing govt in Europe.


    In reply to Herewegoagain, I don't know why the charities don't band together to incur less cost. To be honest, all I can say is if anyone is willing to donate, donate to charities that are seen to be active. I would include Simon, PeterMcVerry, Crosscare, Brother Kevin Crowley and his team from The Capuchins in Church St, who hasn't had an increase in govt funding since 2007 despite the homeless figures growing exponentially:

    While the Capuchin Day Centre has journeyed with people in need since 1969 including the last recession of the 1980’s, nothing has prepared us for the level of demand for the service. Since the collapse of the Banks in 2008 our numbers have more than doubled. Latest figures show we provide 2/300 breakfasts each day with 400 extra on a Wednesday. Our dinner service has increased and is seldom less that 480 with a couple of days in the week exceeding 500. In keeping with our child protection policies, we have a designated family area where parents and their children can enjoy nutritious meals in safety.

    The increase in child poverty is very evident here in the Day Centre with more parents needing to avail of the service. We also have a medical service, chiropody clinics, an optical service and advice and information clinics. We prioritise the needs of rough sleepers and the increased energy and water charges for the shower facilities together with the provision of new underwear, personal hygiene products etc. has all added to our expenses.

    Despite trying to cope with the above, the greatest challenge both physically and financially is to help the increased number of people who need Food Parcels. Demand has risen with each new phase of unemployment and rose from about 1800 a week in 2014 to around 2000 in 2015 with further spikes in the number of people who need help to feed their families in the current economic environment. We have not received an increase in our government funding since 2007 so we need your help more than ever. There are more people at risk of dying on the side of the road tonight than when I started the Centre in 1969.

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    This Irish Housing Network also seems to be doing something on the ground with Apollo House. I would support causes where we can see direct action.
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    The Peter McVerry Trust had a total income of €10,656,737 in 2014, of which €6,842,691 came from the State. It employed 146 employees in 2014 at a cost of just under €8.1 million.



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    So, 80% of it's money goes to employ "social science" graduates who would probably be hard pushed to boil a fkn egg.

    And all to house around a dozen junkies every night.

    Mother of Jesus.
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    Originally Posted by saab900
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    Are you aware of facts of the Johnathon Corrie case? You do know that he sold 2 houses that others had bought for him? His was a tragedy of drug addiction, not homelessness.
    Most of the homeless sleeping rough are the authors of their own Downfall

    - drink and drugs mainly & severe personality disorders
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