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Thread: Dispelling the Myth of "Eurabia"

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Riddler View Post
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    Instead of attacking the messenger why dont you attack the message]
    I've done it before in other threads with you, and it doesn't register, nor do you refute anything I put. You just c&p, c&p....

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    In particular

    Gadhafis message

    YouTube - What Islam has planned for Europe
    I'll see your Gaddaffi and raise you a
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMKSjSoVLPQ"]David Icke[/ame]

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    Instead of attacking the messenger why dont you attack the message]

    I've done it before in other threads with you, and it doesn't register, nor do you refute anything I put. You just c&p, c&p....


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    Gadhafis message

    YouTube - What Islam has planned for Europe

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    You re trolling now

    If you cant refute any of the facts i posted about the falling birth rates In Europe and Russia its best dont say nothing at all ,

    Your last post only makes look like a troll and nothing more
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Riddler View Post
    You re trolling now

    If you cant refute any of the facts i posted about the falling birth rates In Europe and Russia its best dont say nothing at all ,

    Your last post only makes look like a troll and nothing more
    It's been done before. It's done in the article in the OP. Why should I go over the same ground again and again with somebody who just c&ps second-hand sh[SIZE="2"]it[/SIZE]e and youtube clips? Get back to me when you get your act together.

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    It's been done before. It's done in the article in the OP. Why should I go over the same ground again and again with somebody who just c&ps second-hand ********************e and youtube clips? Get back to me when you get your act together
    Going off topic again i see .

    You cant deal with this specific thread because you know yourself you cant refute the birth rates are falling In europe

    Get back to me when you can Refute that

    If you cant do that

    say it best when say nothing at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Riddler View Post
    Going off topic again i see .

    You cant deal with this specific thread because you know yourself you cant refute the birth rates are falling In europe
    But thats not the only factor in the equation, by a long shot. You see, if you examined the issue with something approaching a critical mind, you'd realise theres other factors at work, as explained elsewhere and in the article in the OP.

    Theres a thing ....................Have you actually read that article, because despite the thread being dedicated to it, you haven't bothered answering it directly save to - What A F[SIZE="2"]u[/SIZE]cking Suprise - copy and paste in your usual sh[SIZE="2"]it[/SIZE]e with a few youtube videos to boot. Nobody even disputed the falling birthrates either in the OP or on the thread, but so busy was your little bwain lashing in the same old bollocks, you never even noticed......

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Riddler View Post
    Going off topic again i see .

    You cant deal with this specific thread because you know yourself you cant refute the birth rates are falling In europe

    Get back to me when you can Refute that

    If you cant do that

    say it best when say nothing at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Riddler View Post
    Going off topic again i see .

    You cant deal with this specific thread because you know yourself you cant refute the birth rates are falling In europe

    Get back to me when you can Refute that

    If you cant do that

    say it best when say nothing at all
    He can't refute it no. But he can say it's irrelevant by linking you to this very obvious article.



    Muslim Birthrates Falling Worldwide Terryorisms

    Not to mention the faction immigrants do tend to mimic the birthrates of their adopted country after about a generation or two.

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    Muslim Europe: the demographic time bomb transforming our continent

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    Interesting article debunking the myth of Islam taking over Europe.



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    Read the full article Dispelling the Myth of Eurabia | Newsweek International | Newsweek.com

    A related recent article from fox claiming the opposite that in fact it is happening.
    FOXNews.com - Politicians Fret as Muslim Population Swells in Europe Amid Little Integration - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News

    Will he not know the truth till its too late does it even matter ? or is it just plain old scare tactics by the right
    Well there just happens to be a new article arguing the very opposite

    Europe's low white birth rate, coupled with faster multiplying migrants, will change fundamentally what we take to mean by European culture and society.

    Britain and the rest of the European Union are ignoring a demographic time bomb: a recent rush into the EU by migrants, including millions of Muslims, will change the continent beyond recognition over the next two decades, and almost no policy-makers are talking about it
    Muslim Europe: the demographic time bomb transforming our continent - Telegraph
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Riddler View Post
    Well there just happens to be a new article arguing the very opposite



    Muslim Europe: the demographic time bomb transforming our continent - Telegraph
    What a load of guff. Is there anything new in this article? The Pew report cited was first published in 2005. Did the journalist just discover it now? I can't find the 2006 US Air Force study by Mr Perkowski anywhere that tells us that there are between 15 and 23 million Muslims in the EU but I can tell you that that's between 3 and 5% of the total if you're feeling panic-stricken. How can the 95-97% of us who are non-Muslims prevent this inexorable slide to Eurabia? If only there were a way.

    To say that "according to the US's Migration Policy Institute, residents of Muslim faith will account for more than 20 per cent of the EU population by 2050" is inaccurate. What they said was that demographic trends ARE LIKELY to push the figure to over 20%, but they got that figure from another 2005 report (has this journalist been asleep for the last four years?) by Karoly Lorant (mentioned later in the article), who was making extrapolations based on earlier tendencies. He himself said that the scenario of the 20% figure "while it can not be entirely ruled out, seems rather unrealistic". So a situation that the original researcher thinks "unrealistic", becomes "likely" according to the Migration Policy Institute and turns, after four years of ignoring it completely, into simple, hard fact for the Telegraph journalist.

    He cites Christopher Caldwell, an American journalist ideologically opposed to the spread of Islam, and gives HIS projections for the future demographics of Birmingham, France, Leicester and Austria. Are these rooted in proper studies and if so which ones? Who knows? Not the journalist, certainly.

    But in among the half-baked speculation and reference to non-specific "polls", there are moments of clarity. "Projected growth rates are a disputed area. Birth rates can be difficult to predict and migrant numbers can ebb and flow." That's true, although it doesn't stop him having a pop. "Recent polls have tended to show that the feared radicalisation of Europe's Muslims has not occurred." "Muslims, who are a hugely diverse group, have so far shown little inclination to organise politically on lines of race or religion." All of this is true.

    What's less clear is whether or not the rise of people like the BNP and Geert Wilders is because of a failure by mainstream parties to "fully grapple with the broader issues of race and identity surrounding Muslims" or whether scare-mongering, no-news, fact-light stories like this one serve to ratchet up a sense that "we" are under siege and that, unless something is done, "they" will overwhelm us.

    On a lighter note, I did enjoy the breathless revelation that "in 2004 the EU thought its population would decline by 16 million by 2050. Now it thinks it will increase by 10 million by 2060." So that's 10 million people added to the 500 million that are in it today. Can it be true that the population of Europe will increase by 2% over the next 50 years? Forgive me while I go back to sleep. Absolute rubbish journalism.
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    No the west is in no danger of being 'islamicized' (Gert Wilders is a complete moron and I hate islam with a passion) the people who want that are complete idiots, I mean do these morons seem capable of overthrowing the west?

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