As has been pointed out on numerous occasions the position of both the New-Left and the Neo-Liberals makes them undistinguishable on this issue. Considering that is the only "right" or "Left" on many of the, now unrepresentative, parliamentary Parties, it leaves the concerns of great swaths of the native people marginalised - and, as the adage goes, ‘nature abhors a Vacuum’.Originally Posted by hiker
"Public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals that we dare not present to them directly ...."
- V.Giscard D'Estaing, 14 June 2007
Surely the great swaths ,as you call them, have FF and FG. Between them they make up about 70% of the electorate.As has been pointed out on numerous occasions the position of both the New-Left and the Neo-Liberals makes them undistinguishable on this issue. Considering that is the only "right" or "Left" on many of the, now unrepresentative, parliamentary Parties, it leaves the concerns of great swaths of the native people marginalised - and, as the adage goes, ‘nature abhors a Vacuum’.
Interesting point about the New Left and Neo Liberal, btw. I'd never thought of that before.
Bazinga!
Another factor in favour of a closed-door is this report in the Mail on Sunday in the UK:
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/liv ... ge_id=1770
Good news in today's Irish Independent just read it:Bulgarian officials handing out thousands of passports to non Europeans
Ministers were under increasing pressure last night to abandon their open door immigration policy as it emerged Bulgaria is handing out tens of thousands of passports to non-EU foreigners who will soon be able to come to Britain.
Critics are predicting another massive influx of migrants when Romania and Bulgaria join the EU next January.
Bulgaria's already lax procedures for issuing passports are now said to be being exploited by corrupt officials who agree to fast-track passports for less than £200.
More than 20,000 people from countries such as Moldova and Macedonia have taken up Bulgarian citizenship in the past few years, and at least 55,000 more are believed to be on the waiting list.
The claims will add to existing fears in the UK about the large number of migrants - some with criminal records - who are expected to arrive next year.
A leaked Government memo has revealed that the Home Office itself believes up to a third of migrants ready to head to Britain from Romania and Bulgaria will be 'undesirables'.
Some 270,000 migrants came here from Eastern Europe last year – 20 times as many as the Government predicted when it decided to allow unfettered immigration from new EU member states, including Poland.
Yesterday it emerged that thousands of Eastern European migrants living in Britain are able to claim child benefit even for children they have left behind.
For the Tories, shadow home secretary David Davis said: 'It would be an incredible failure of judgement if the Government were to allow the same conditions to apply to Romania and Bulgaria as applied to the previous wave of Eastern European countries.
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/ ... e_id=14568
Door shuts for migrants
Work permit plan to restrict Bulgarian and Romanian workers
THE Government is planning to close the door to thousands of foreign workers looking to move here next year.
The Irish Independent has learned the State wants to end its open-door policy for migrant workers from Bulgaria and Romania.
Thousands of workers from the two EU accession states had been expected to move here once they became full members of the EU in January 2007.
Now, however, government sources have revealed Taoiseach Bertie Ahern and Justice Minister Michael McDowell plan to introduce specific work-permits for nationals from the two new EU member states.
"The standard of living in Bulgaria and Romania is so far below the other access countries we would be swamped by workers seeking jobs here," a source said.
The Fianna Fail/PD coalition is wary of a voter backlash which they fear would be sparked by a fresh influx of foreign workers.
The ban on Romanians and Bulgarians working here would not affect the position of migrant workers from Poland and the Baltic States.
Almost 100,000 Polish workers are estimated to be already living here.
The Government's move is a stark reversal of its position when it rebuked other EU member states for refusing open access to workers from the 10 accession states who joined in May 2004.
In May, Mr Ahern said: "We'll have to eventually look at Bulgaria and Romania but I'd rather see my colleagues being a bit more advanced."
Ireland, Britain and Sweden were the only countries that allowed workers from accession states to freely seek work in 2004.
To date, Finland is the only EU member to publicly announce it will allow Bulgarian and Romanian workers full access to jobs.
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Fine Gael MEP Mairead McGuinness signalled difficulties for Bulgarian and Romanian job-seekers in Ireland in June.
She said: "The clear implication from the Taoiseach was that the decision about the free movement of citizens from Romania and Bulgaria would depend on what other member states, notably the UK, did in this regard."
There has been a growing campaign in Britain to deny access to workers from the two countries.
It's sad though that people are celebrating what should be just common sense!
"Public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals that we dare not present to them directly ...."
- V.Giscard D'Estaing, 14 June 2007
Well if true it is to be welcomed.
I wonder though whether the 'work permit' way of entry will not just become another way of letting most of them in anyway while FF/PDs claim they are 'doing something'!
I hope that this move finally puts paid to the nonsense we have seen posted on this Site by some people re 'there is no public concern about immigration' type of comment.
I can see a legal challenge coming now as a Bulgarion or Rumanian citizen claims that he is being discriminated against by the Irish State.
It also will make the concept that we had to 'on principle' let everybody in the EU come here from 2004 onwards a Lie.
If it was a 'principle' then how come it is not from now on?
Europa Conventus Delenda Est
A bit rich from such a wealthy country - and one that is trying to stop it's own illegals being bokked out of the USA. Hypocrites. Especially considering that until the 26 counties got their nose into the EU trough their workers who poured abroad were no different to the desperate people seeking to come to Ireland.
Tragic but very true.
Life is a beautiful magnificent thing, even to a jelly fish ~ Charlie Chaplin
Prior to the State joining the EEC we had a good Economy with a net inflow of migrants (returning Irish) coming here to avail of our new found prosperity.
Never ceases to amaze me just how ignorant some Posters are of our recent History!
Europa Conventus Delenda Est
Do you honestly believe that the EU has been bad for our economy? Not to mention our society.Prior to the State joining the EEC we had a good Economy with a net inflow of migrants (returning Irish) coming here to avail of our new found prosperity.
Never ceases to amaze me just how ignorant some Posters are of our recent History!
Life is a beautiful magnificent thing, even to a jelly fish ~ Charlie Chaplin
Who do you think you are kidding ????Prior to the State joining the EEC we had a good Economy with a net inflow of migrants (returning Irish) coming here to avail of our new found prosperity.
Never ceases to amaze me just how ignorant some Posters are of our recent History!
Hundreds of thousands of Irish people kept the Free state afloat with money from Britain and even more went to the USA.
At least try an be honest with yourself if you don't want to be honest with the world.
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