Mary Lou strongly opposes closed door to EU migration

[factual]

Mary Lou has today taken on Jim Allister's negative attitudes towards migration from Romania and Bulgaria

But she supports "equality" and an "all-Ireland approach", right?

Please say yes, because I don't think I could take the shock if she didn't

She is certainly taking an all Ireland approach because Jim Alistair is a six county MEP. She also believes in an Ireland of Equals and indeed a Europe of Equals, as she says "whether they are Irish, British or Romanian."

Correct me if I'm wrong Factual but I thought SF were against the EU?

How can you be against the EU yet for a Europe of Equals?

BTW if you and your Party do support that concept of Equality I take it you accept that Ireland, with a population of less than 6 million people, should have the power and influence within the EU that reflects our % of the overall population - in other words miniscule!

I don't think that SF are against the EU, although SF have campaigned against Ireland's adoption of the Euro, which handed control of interest rates out of Irish hands thereby leaving us unable to determine an independent monetary policy.

[factual]

Well as Mary Lou has seen that the recent enlargement has had no downward pressure on MEP wages, she probably feels there's nothing to worry about from Romania or Bulgaria either

Actually all SF's representatives take no more than a standard industrial wage. The rest is volunteered to party finances for campaigns and so on.

[Catalpa]

Mary Lou has today taken on Jim Allister's negative attitudes towards migration from Romania and Bulgaria

But she supports "equality" and an "all-Ireland approach", right?

Please say yes, because I don't think I could take the shock if she didn't

She is certainly taking an all Ireland approach because Jim Alistair is a six county MEP. She also believes in an Ireland of Equals and indeed a Europe of Equals, as she says "whether they are Irish, British or Romanian."

Correct me if I'm wrong Factual but I thought SF were against the EU?

How can you be against the EU yet for a Europe of Equals?

BTW if you and your Party do support that concept of Equality I take it you accept that Ireland, with a population of less than 6 million people, should have the power and influence within the EU that reflects our % of the overall population - in other words miniscule!

I don't think that SF are against the EU, although SF have campaigned against Ireland's adoption of the Euro, which handed control of interest rates out of Irish hands thereby leaving us unable to determine an independent monetary policy.

Now hang on a second!

You can't be both for the EU and opposed to it.

I don't think that SF are against the EU

Look Factual you may not be Mary Lou but it's obvious your pretty close to her else you would have been told off this website by now if you wern't.

You know perfectly well that SF has been openly anti EU for many years.

This 'I don't think that SF are against the EU' is just a way of preparing your Party members for yet another policy switch away from 'core principles' that the public have become so used to from SF.

Does anyone take SF seriously anymore?

Do they actually believe in anything at all?

[factual]

Now hang on a second!

You can't be both for the EU and opposed to it.

I don't think that SF are against the EU

You know perfectly well that SF has been openly anti EU for many years.

Yes, Sinn Féin are opposed to many aspects of the EU but on the question of whether Sinn Féin would advocate withdrawal from the EU I don't think they do. Hope that clears things up.

[Conor]

Now hang on a second!

You can't be both for the EU and opposed to it.

I don't think that SF are against the EU

Look Factual you may not be Mary Lou but it's obvious your pretty close to her else you would have been told off this website by now if you wern't.

You know perfectly well that SF has been openly anti EU for many years.

Sinn Féin enthusiastically supports European co-operation and solidarity, and celebrates the fact that, throughout its history, Ireland has very much been a European nation. They believe that cultural diversity, both within Ireland and throughout Europe, strengthens us all. Their core ethos of republicanism, with its basic tenets of liberty, equality and solidarity, is an ideology that emerged from the cauldron of revolutionary Europe. Critical engagement is about promoting a Europe with which all citizens can identify. That means building a Europe of Equals, rather than one that is controlled by large nations, powerful bureaucratic elites and transnational capital.

Sinn Féin wants Ireland to be part of a Europe run democratically from the bottom to the top, not the reverse.

[FutureTaoiseach]

Mary Lou is wrong. We need controls because of displacement, exploitation, rising unemployment as revealed in recent statistics, and because the health-service and other public-services can only cope with so much. The Left should reflect on how sustainable welfare-state's and public-services will be if the burden on them is increased too fast and by too much. The taboo around this issue needs to end.

[Catalpa]

Now hang on a second!

You can't be both for the EU and opposed to it.

I don't think that SF are against the EU

You know perfectly well that SF has been openly anti EU for many years.

Yes, Sinn Féin are opposed to many aspects of the EU but on the question of whether Sinn Féin would advocate withdrawal from the EU I don't think they do. Hope that clears things up.

I'm afraid it doesn't...

Just about every political Party in the EU has some issues with the concept but that is hardly 'anti EU'!

Personally I think we should press strongly for its replacement by a more Nation friendly Organisation.

A Europe of Nation States not a European Union.

Obviously within that concept retaining control over who can come here and who cannot is a fundamental part of a Nations' Sovereignty.

[Catalpa]

Now hang on a second!

You can't be both for the EU and opposed to it.

I don't think that SF are against the EU

Look Factual you may not be Mary Lou but it's obvious your pretty close to her else you would have been told off this website by now if you wern't.

You know perfectly well that SF has been openly anti EU for many years.

Sinn Féin enthusiastically supports European co-operation and solidarity, and celebrates the fact that, throughout its history, Ireland has very much been a European nation. They believe that cultural diversity, both within Ireland and throughout Europe, strengthens us all. Their core ethos of republicanism, with its basic tenets of liberty, equality and solidarity, is an ideology that emerged from the cauldron of revolutionary Europe. Critical engagement is about promoting a Europe with which all citizens can identify. That means building a Europe of Equals, rather than one that is controlled by large nations, powerful bureaucratic elites and transnational capital.

Sinn Féin wants Ireland to be part of a Europe run democratically from the bottom to the top, not the reverse.

Conor:

Are you and Factual like ... a Couple? :P

[Conor]

Conor:

Are you and Factual like ... a Couple? :P

His heart belongs to another.

[Catalpa]

Conor:

Are you and Factual like ... a Couple? :P

His heart belongs to another.

Seriously I didn't know you were a SF supporter. I thought you were more to the Hard Left. Or have you switched?

When are we meeting in town BTW?

Meet you next Friday if your on?