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    Quote Originally Posted by Verhofstadt View Post
    Nick Robinson on the Beeb has outed him as a Nazi sympathising racist.
    Outed? He was in the BNP FFS! It must have been pretty clear from the off that he was a Nazi sympathising racist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    And they could still get one in Manchester. Northern c*nts. No excuses, I hope anyone who voted for them gets cancer. Shaming.
    The BNP are a thoroughly disreputable party and I certainly wouldn't advocate anyone voting for them.

    But it wasn't the BNP that went into Iraq. It wasn't the BNP that endangered citizens through the predictable blowback (the London bombings in 2005). It wasn't the BNP that implemented the 'surveillance society' in the UK. Just sayin'.

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    Who did they take the seat from, I can understand UKIP but it looks like Labor, that's a little incongruous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamfoley View Post
    Are you saying PR a la the North would have returned a moderate cand?
    If the EP elections in Britain were by Single Transferable Vote as in Ireland (both Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland) then I think there is a good chance that the BNP would not have won one of the six seats in Yorkshire & Humber because they would have had the same problem that Sinn Fein has had in the Republic - the inability to get transfers.

    However, I'm always a bit wary of making comparisons like this because a different voting system affects how people cast their vote, i.e. the first preference votes under an STV system (particularly after several elections when people had learnt how to use it more intelligent) would be different from how people vote under the de Hondt system now in use for British European Parliament elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    An alliance with SF's DeBrun on the cards? These ultra nationalists have a lot in common.
    very astute comment. a man who really knows whats going on.a good tip i once read is that if you keep your mouth shut they wont know how stupid you are.

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    This is what happens when 2.34 million people get dumped in england over a decade, locals get annoyed. This is why UKIP (in particular) and BNP are getting lots of votes.

    Consider it a complete rejection of the policy of mass immigration brit Labour have pursued since 1997 by those most affected. Lessons for Irish parties in there.
    "I don't think Martin McGuinness necessarily intended to kill anyone while in the IRA." factual

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    Quote Originally Posted by conservative green View Post
    The BNP are a thoroughly disreputable party and I certainly wouldn't advocate anyone voting for them.

    But it wasn't the BNP that went into Iraq. It wasn't the BNP that endangered citizens through the predictable blowback (the London bombings in 2005). It wasn't the BNP that implemented the 'surveillance society' in the UK. Just sayin'.
    Could you say it somewhere else please? This discussion is about the BNP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conservative green View Post
    The BNP are a thoroughly disreputable party and I certainly wouldn't advocate anyone voting for them.

    But it wasn't the BNP that went into Iraq. It wasn't the BNP that endangered citizens through the predictable blowback (the London bombings in 2005). It wasn't the BNP that implemented the 'surveillance society' in the UK. Just sayin'.
    True. But the Greens didn't do any of that stuff either. And they're not racist, homophobic, islamophobic, anti-semitic scum. They only needed 7,500 BNP voters to switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamfoley View Post
    Who did they take the seat from, I can understand UKIP but it looks like Labor, that's a little incongruous.
    Not necessarily. I haven't seen the figures in this instance, but the BNP generally gets most of its votes in working class areas that would traditionally be Labour

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    Quote Originally Posted by conservative green View Post
    The BNP are a thoroughly disreputable party and I certainly wouldn't advocate anyone voting for them.

    But it wasn't the BNP that went into Iraq. It wasn't the BNP that endangered citizens through the predictable blowback (the London bombings in 2005). It wasn't the BNP that implemented the 'surveillance society' in the UK. Just sayin'.
    There are a multitude of parties to vote for in opposition to any of that. No excuses. Anyone who voted for that scum deserves to get AIDS. As someone from southern England, I feel ashamed at what our 'friends' in the north have done.

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