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Thread: Eoin Ryan says Dublin must fight like the farmers. Wha?

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    Eoin Ryan says Dublin must fight like the farmers. Wha?

    I'm trying to make sense of this statement by Eoin Ryan
    Dublin Fianna Fáil MEP Eoin Ryan stated that "Dublin needs to fight like the farmers," referring to the €9 billion funding package that the agricultural sector will draw down from the EU in the next 5 years.

    Ryan, whose campaign slogan is ‘We can’t just hope for the best; we have to fight for it’ insisted that "Dubliners need to fight for EU funding, funding which will be critical to the economic recovery of this city. Agriculture will draw down €9 billion from 2009-2013 because the industry aggressively pursued the funding.

    We need to go after EU funding with the same determination! There are 100,000 small businesses in Dublin employing 400,000 people; EU funding will help protect those businesses and those jobs."
    Wtf is he on about? I mean, I take it that the funding package has to do with CAP, which is one of the foundation millstones at the centre of the EU.

    I'm not aware of the "Common Free Money for SMEs in Capital Cities of EU Member States Policy". I would have thought that, post enlargement, the EU would tell us to feck off if we went looking for handouts for a part of Europe that, until recently, was floating in a sea of money.

    Can anyone make sense of this stuff? Is there some basis for this, or is the statement as weird as I think it is?
    However, banks know they have a duty of care to their clients and I'm sure that this should prevent them lending irresponsibly.


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    Fuck the moaning farmers. There's only 30,000 of them in the country. There are almost as many taxi drivers as farmers.

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    Telling the denizens of Dublin 4 and 6 that they might have something to learn from the culchies?

    That'll go down a bomb in Ashtons and the Merrion Im sure!!

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    North County Dublin is one of the biggest areas in the country for growers of veg, etc, whilst they would be a very small number of people in the total populus of the GDA, they none the less are a reasonable block if they voted on mass for a single candidate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edo View Post
    Telling the denizens of Dublin 4 and 6 that they might have something to learn from the culchies?

    That'll go down a bomb in Ashtons and the Merrion Im sure!!
    It might. But what’s more on my mind is whether they do have anything to learn. There was a pot sitting in Brussels for Agriculture that was there for the taking. I’m not aware of any equivalent pot available for stuff vaguely connected to SMEs in Dublin.

    That’s really my question. Wtf is he on about? Is he on about anything?
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    North County Dublin is one of the biggest areas in the country for growers of veg, etc, whilst they would be a very small number of people in the total populus of the GDA, they none the less are a reasonable block if they voted on mass for a single candidate
    According to the 2006 Census, only 2,000 of the 630,000 folk in Dublin counted as being in the labour force stated themselves to be “Farming, Fishing and Forestry workers”. That’s less than half of one percent, hardly enough to leave MLM choking in his exhaust as he races to victory.

    But even that’s not the point. He’s not (I don’t think) suggesting that Dublin can expect billions in free money out of CAP. He’s vaguely suggesting that in some way Brussels can be bludgeoned into giving Dublin billions. I mean, this seems to belong to the Biffo school of interpretation of the EU – that its an organisation with pots of cash that for some strange reason wants to give all Irish residents free money if they get into any difficulty at all.

    I’m not sure that’s how the EU sees itself, though. And I’m not sure that this statement by Eoin Ryan has any basis in reality. But maybe I’m wrong; that said, I don’t see a stampede of people explaining what EU programme these funds would come from.
    However, banks know they have a duty of care to their clients and I'm sure that this should prevent them lending irresponsibly.


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    dublin needs to be bought like farmers, he's saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuhart View Post
    It might. But what’s more on my mind is whether they do have anything to learn. There was a pot sitting in Brussels for Agriculture that was there for the taking. I’m not aware of any equivalent pot available for stuff vaguely connected to SMEs in Dublin.

    That’s really my question. Wtf is he on about? Is he on about anything?
    There are all kinds of money pots for SMEs (and upskilling, and reskilling, and waterskilling, and the rest) in the EU, and we're actually not very good at making sure we avail of them (at least partly because the form-filling is awful). Whether Ryan is the right man to help us I couldn't say, but he's not simply talking about something imaginary there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuhart View Post
    I'm trying to make sense of this statement by Eoin RyanWtf is he on about? I mean, I take it that the funding package has to do with CAP, which is one of the foundation millstones at the centre of the EU.

    I'm not aware of the "Common Free Money for SMEs in Capital Cities of EU Member States Policy". I would have thought that, post enlargement, the EU would tell us to feck off if we went looking for handouts for a part of Europe that, until recently, was floating in a sea of money.

    Can anyone make sense of this stuff? Is there some basis for this, or is the statement as weird as I think it is?
    It sounds like meaningless guff to me, probably because it is meaningless guff. Actually if Eoin Ryan was seriously concerned about Dublin he would have opposed Irish becoming an official EU language, with the huge expense that has entailed and asked that money be allocated instead to anti drug addition community projects in Dublin, did he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Wainer View Post
    It sounds like meaningless guff to me, probably because it is meaningless guff. Actually if Eoin Ryan was seriously concerned about Dublin he would have opposed Irish becoming an official EU language, with the huge expense that has entailed and asked that money be allocated instead to anti drug addition community projects in Dublin, did he?

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    Hi, Just curious whats the story with your signature?

    Why did you pick that particular quote from that man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duth Ealla View Post
    Hi, Just curious whats the story with your signature?

    Why did you pick that particular quote from that man?

    Asked before but promise not to ask again if its secret or something.
    Was the previous explanation not sufficient?

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