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    Quote Originally Posted by Geekzilla View Post
    Then why didn't she list that?
    It's already well known.

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    Which could be said of every other candidate.
    Yes and I only mentioned it to contrast it with the plastic braggadocio of the anonymous internet twerps here, led vociferously by Young Fine Gael.

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    Then why didn't she list those?
    Assuming that she didn't, maybe she felt it was necessary to highlight the serious deficiencies of her opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almanac View Post
    It's already well known.
    She could have listed it as an example of her experience.
    Assuming that she didn't, maybe she felt it was necessary to highlight the serious deficiencies of her opponents.

    Criticism can be a positive thing.
    Like her comments on Pronsias de Rossa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanclub View Post
    Strangely enough, she isn't running on a pro-life platform. Are you saying she is?

    If not, then how does that show "guts"? As Geekzilla says, she certainly didn't have the "guts" to list this on her own leaflet! She could have easily fit it in by removing an attack or two on her opponents.
    Does Ivana Bacik have the "guts" to mention her pro-life views in her election literature?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proposition Joe View Post
    Does Ivana Bacik have the "guts" to mention her pro-life views in her election literature?
    Haven't seen her leaflet, but on her website:

    People - Senator Ivana Bacik - Home Page

    Third paragraph in:

    Ivana graduated from Trinity with a law degree in 1989, was President of TCD Students’ Union from 1989-1990. During her term she and her colleagues in Trinity were taken to court by the Society for the Protection of the Unborn Child (SPUC) for providing information regarding abortion services in the UK. Ivana and the students were defended by future President Mary Robinson in a case that paved the way for legal change in favour of women’s rights.
    Seems very open about her pro-choice stance.

    Does Simons have a web site? No search on Google produces anything except a bland Facebook page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
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    It is also on of the easiest ones to get!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanclub View Post
    Haven't seen her leaflet, but on her website:

    People - Senator Ivana Bacik - Home Page

    Third paragraph in:

    Seems very open about her pro-choice stance.
    I'd suspect the material on the web is intended to play to an entirely different audience ... those more likely to vote her into the Dublin University Seanad seat as opposed to the Dublin Central Dail seat.

    I would doubt very much she's pushing the pro-choice line to the aul wans on the doorsteps of Drumcondra.

    Quote Originally Posted by oceanclub View Post
    Does Simons have a web site?
    Dunno about a website, I'm not a fan of Simons.

    It just seems a little odd and inconsistent the different standard by which Libertas is judged in the media and on this site, as compared to the latitude allowed to the mainstream parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mccafferty cat View Post
    Everyone here knows what these lines on her leaflets translates as, and who it is aimed at.

    It may as well say: "Five children, no abortions".
    I wouldn't read so much into it. She is an inexperienced (putative) politician. So her "credits" are a bit thin. Ok She has five kids. So what? Read into that what you will but abortion angle?? Don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proposition Joe View Post
    I'd suspect the material on the web is intended to play to an entirely different audience ... those more likely to vote her into the Dublin University Seanad seat as opposed to the Dublin Central Dail seat.
    Yeah, everyone knows that people from the inner city are too stupid to use the Internet.

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    She'll be on Q+A tonight in a Dublin euro election-special. Will be interesting to see if she can make up any ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geekzilla View Post
    Like her comments on Pronsias de Rossa?
    Yes. Her intention was clear. Do you honestly think someone who publicly opposes euthanasia would be ageist? What she was saying was that it was time for change, that De Rossa had only the same tired and jaded cliches and policies to offer.
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