82% of French people against Turkey accession to EU

[Ah Well]

Taken in 2005.

More recent polling has shown a hardening of Irish opinion against Turkish membership, with opponents leading supporters.

I agree.... if there were a referendum here tmro morning re Turkish accession to the EU I'd say the chance of a Yes success would be less than slim

[Defeated Romanticist]

If it happens and thats a big if, eastern european immigration to Ireland will seem like a drop in the ocean compared to the enivatable flood of Turkish migrants here.

That's why it is inevitable.

[Ah Well]

That's why it is inevitable.

It's not inevitable

Austria and France are totally against Turkish accession ... and have been for many years .... whatever about the rest

[Defeated Romanticist]

It's not inevitable

Austria and France are totally against Turkish accession ... and have been for many years .... whatever about the rest

That's why Austria vetoed the opening of negotiations for accession, oh wait.

It's wanted by the leaders of the important countries and the important people therefore it will happen. The next generation will learn Turkish as their second language.

[MacO'velli]

That's why Austria vetoed the opening of negotiations for accession, oh wait.

It's wanted by the leaders of the important countries and the important people therefore it will happen. The next generation will learn Turkish as their second language.

Which leaders of which "important countries" have said this?
Britain?No, France?No, Germany? "well, maybe, in the event that, er........em....... well.... maybe....when they make progress on HR, when cyprus is sorted out........when pigs fly!!

[Defeated Romanticist]

Which leaders of which "important countries" have said this?
Britain?No, France?No, Germany? "well, maybe, in the event that, er........em....... well.... maybe....when they make progress on HR, when cyprus is sorted out........when pigs fly!!

Tony Blair is for it so I assume Brown is too, so are the Scandinavians, the Greeks and I believe the Italians and Spanish. The hot air from Sarko and Merkel has to do with appeasing their right wing domestic base. It has had zero effect on slowing the process. When they have scrubbed up enough to be spun as a European country opposition will miraculously dissolve and Turkey will be in.

The German opposition is especially laughable. They have no kids, who do they expect to change their nappies when they are in their nursing homes? and the French and Dutch would take Turks over Arabs or Indonesians any day of the week. You have to realise something about continental pols. They never say what they mean or mean what they say. Corrupt to a man or frau. Just look at Schroeder. Mr Peace is off scratching Putin's balls now as head of some white elephant gas pipeline company. Some socialist he is!

[MacO'velli]

What schroeder and blair do is irrelevent, schroeder is bought and paid for by Gazprom, and Blair is for sale to the highest bidder, What you nead to realise is the level of xenophobia in Europe and how exciteable the populus will become at the thought of 80 million muslims suddenly having a bloc in european affairs.Turkish integration will always be on the agenda, but the chances of it ever becoming a reality are slim, bear in mind also the attitudes of the eastern european nations like Poland, Chezk Rep,slovakia and Lt,Est,Lit and their growing influence and I think you will probably see Israel become a member sooner than Turkey, and there is no chance of Israel joining.

[Defeated Romanticist]

What schroeder and blair do is irrelevent, schroeder is bought and paid for by Gazprom, and Blair is for sale to the highest bidder, What you nead to realise is the level of xenophobia in Europe and how exciteable the populus will become at the thought of 80 million muslims suddenly having a bloc in european affairs.Turkish integration will always be on the agenda, but the chances of it ever becoming a reality are slim, bear in mind also the attitudes of the eastern european nations like Poland, Chezk Rep,slovakia and Lt,Est,Lit and their growing influence and I think you will probably see Israel become a member sooner than Turkey, and there is no chance of Israel joining.

The French are perhaps the most Xenophobic country in Europe. Yet they have loads and loads of Muslims and Black Africans. 40% of white French people admit to being racist, the FN regularly win majorities in parts of France. Sarkozy has taken on the language which earned Le Pen a boycott and million man marchs in 2002. Yet has anything changed? Has Sarko turned back the EU project or any migrants. Has he hell. Continental Europe is a land of faux democracies. The voters get to choose, but not who to choose and not what the paramaters of that choice. Same in America. Guess the only part of the liberal agenda which won't pass under Obama? The card check law.

Turkey's coming in. Might take 20 years. But they are in unless there is an Islamic coup which their won't because it won't be necessary. The AKP has broken the power of the Army.

[Gadjodilo]

"A total of 37 per cent were in favour of the constitution, while 13 per cent were against."

That's from the same report Gadjodilo. This was before the constitution was renamed the Lisbon Treaty too. Opinion changes fast. I'd be interested how the polling on Turkey would go if it were repeated today.

That was after an intense public debate and loads of lies from the 'no' side. There has been no real discussion here of Turkey's membership of the EU. All in all, I don't think Irish people care that much - although I do admit that could change.

I think French opposition is down to racism and Islamopobia, plain and simple. To the average French person:
Turkey = Islam
Islam = angry young men of north African origin in grim apartment blocks in les banlieues.

[Gadjodilo]

Taken in 2005.

More recent polling has shown a hardening of Irish opinion against Turkish membership, with opponents leading supporters.

Oh well then. Feel free to post the link(s).