Like I said I wouldn't listen to Ganley but I have heard Cohn-Bendit and he is incapable of getting across a point and sounding like a normal, sane human beingOriginally Posted by zeleneye
I mean even by the gombeen standards in Irealnd, Cohn Bendit comes across as ignorant
Sovereignty is Democracy
Confirmed by a senior Libertas source. It is in fact happening.
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
He hardly laid the groundwork for winning the debate with the following comments released today.
Seems Lisbon is a curate's egg the reading of which is all to play for. Hmm?
The debate should be good though. Twould be interesting to see.
Daniel Cohn-Bendit
The adoption of the EU reform treaty in Lisbon has put a full stop to 6 years of constitutional wrangling. This Treaty contains the essential substance of the constitutional treaty, though regrettably in some areas such as Home and Justice Affairs and Common Foreign Affairs Policy we see that there has been a considerable deterioration compared to what the Constitutional Treaty was aiming for.
EU leaders have done their utmost to make the text incomprehensible to EU citizens by burying the content in protocols, footnotes and annexes. With this smoke screen operation they wanted to avoid referenda in the member states. This strategy by EU leaders means the ratification process ahead of us is not without risk. This also means that during the process of implementation of the Treaty, we could lose even more of the substance due to the unclear text.
Unfortunately, EU leaders did not grasp the significance of the No in France and the Netherlands. What they put forward in the treaty does not respond adequately to the crisis of confidence expressed in the EU referenda. Instead, they seized the opportunity to push through their own petty interests and are further alienating EU citizens. We regret that the UK and Poland were allowed to opt out of the Charter of Fundamental Rights. It is a strange anomaly that certain member states choose not to subscribe to the core values of the union.
After the ratification process of what is now the Lisbon Treaty, the fight for a European constitution will again be on the agenda. This will become a huge challenge for Parliament, which should use its new won right of initiative to push for a true European democracy, a social Union and a Europe of citizens rather than just a Europe of States."
date also confirmedb by Cohn-Bendit http://cohn-bendit.de/dcb2006/fe/pub/en/agenda
Vicious smear campaign starts early
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I thought I had already confirmed it was on.
Good to see an un-named senior Libertas source is more reliable than an invitee posting directly!
Oh well..
I was joking...
Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.
- [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]
Yes, and based on a rehash of tired old calumnies. What's the point?
Laws are like cobwebs, which may catch small flies, but let wasps and hornets break through.
- J. Swift
Well, now, to be fair you don't actually know Declan will be at a debate until he's there...
Never let the best be the enemy of the good.
Poor debate, low on substance
Brussels' first political debate short on substance
HONOR MAHONY
Today @ 07:23 CET
EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - Libertas founder Declan Ganley went head-to-head with Greens leader Daniel Cohn-Bendit in a highly anticipated debate on Wednesday evening (1 April), but the discussion was short on substance and dragged down by mud-slinging.
EUobserver
(Note I previously posted this on another thread in error)
Heavens! A debate with Declan Ganley in it turns to mud-slinging? Well, it must be the other guy's fault...
The low point of the debate, which was relatively cordial throughout, happened fairly early on when the two – each armed with a sheath of notes - tried to smear each other.
Mr Cohn-Bendit questioned Mr Ganley about his business links with the US military and whether his dealings in Albania had contributed to the 1990s financial collapse there.
Mr Ganley insisted on his legitimate interests in both cases but used the moment to read an extract from a book published by Mr Cohn-Bendit in 1975 (Le Grand Bazar) on his dealings with children in a Kindergarten.
The passage concerns "caressing" children. Defending the book, Mr Cohn-Bendit said it was written in a different context, the 1970s, when there was a lot of discussion about the "sexuality of children."
"In this time, a lot of ******************** was written and some of it was mine," said Mr Cohn-Bendit, adding that he had won a €500 bet that Mr Ganley would raise the issue.
Mr Ganley subsequently tried to get some more mileage out of the passage.
However, the audience's collective intake of breath and some booing suggested Mr Ganley had lost its sympathy at that point. One of the first questioners said he had hoped the debate would be more about policy issues and less about their respective personal histories.
Never let the best be the enemy of the good.
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