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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    Careful. Cookie will get jealous, and that's ended in blood-soaked tragedy before...

    We're not a couple you know... contrary to popular belief!
    Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobert View Post
    We're not a couple you know... contrary to popular belief!
    That's news to me? Next you'll be telling me you're not a lady.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munion View Post
    I'll be interested to see how you avoid being aligned with the likes of UKIP who want to see the destruction of the EU.

    I can see a lot of people, myself included, using the phrase "anti-EU group Libertas"
    How does your using that phrase equate with truth and fairness then? A little black and white on your part, no? Disingenuous? Never!

    Wouldn't a referendum all across Europe on such an important issue come under your smokescreen of 'equality of opportunity'.

    Its much too early in the campaign to be unfair. You've just achieved one great injustice as the referendum's been re-called. I'd imagine most genuine Irish democrats, whether yes or no camp, would be a tad uneasy at that, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by An Rí Rua View Post
    I'd imagine most genuine Irish democrats, whether yes or no camp, would be a tad uneasy at that, no?
    This one is. But we all knew it would happen. The weekend after the referendum result was spent in the company of anti-Lisbon activists and not one of them believed then that we wouldn't be voting again on Lisbon before the end of 2009.
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    I must ask, what do the people of Lisbon think knowing that they've caused so much suffering and pain?
    Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.

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    Lisbon is a lovely city.
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    They're used to changing the world:

    Wikipedia : 1755 Lisbon earthquake

    ...The earthquake and its fallout strongly influenced the intelligentsia of the European Age of Enlightenment. The noted writer-philosopher Voltaire used the earthquake in Candide and in his Poème sur le désastre de Lisbonne ("Poem on the Lisbon disaster"). Voltaire's Candide attacks the notion that all is for the best in this, "the best of all possible worlds", a world closely supervised by a benevolent deity. The Lisbon disaster provided a salutary counterexample. As Theodor Adorno wrote, "[t]he earthquake of Lisbon sufficed to cure Voltaire of the theodicy of Leibniz" (Negative Dialectics 361). In the later twentieth century, following Adorno, the 1755 earthquake has sometimes been compared to the Holocaust as a catastrophe that transformed European culture and philosophy. Jean-Jacques Rousseau was also influenced by the devastation following the earthquake, whose severity he believed was due to too many people living within the close quarters of the city. Rousseau used the earthquake as an argument against cities as part of his desire for a more naturalistic way of life....
    (Though Voltaire was wicked naughty with his straw-manning of Leibnz)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    Lisbon is a lovely city.

    Cookie is pro-Lisbon!
    Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.

    - [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobert View Post
    Cookie is pro-Lisbon!
    Cookie spent a summer floating about Lisbon and Porto when he was younger.
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