Libertas launches new website (and campaign for 2009 EU Parliament elections too)

[CookieMonster]

I really REALLY hope that Libertas run candidates here in Ireland. I look forward to seeing how they would fare when faced with the following:

1) No grassroots organisation of any kind
2) No media coverage during the election, except that on a par with the Socialist Workers Party
3) Severe spending restrictions and disclosure requirements on a par with other parties

Indeed there are challenges ahead, but those involved managed to over come all the odds set against them in the run up to the first Lisbon referendum. The ability and determination of the very smart and capable people involved will, no dount, provide another fascinating element in what seems to me is set to be the most interesting European elections yet.

[Bobert]

And buy some new suits shirts and ties...

[mccafferty cat]

I've often wondered why FG or Labour for example don't canvass themselves as members of the EPP or the PES ? Anyone care to help here from those parties?

I don't know about Labour, but FG candidates displayed their EPP alleigance very heavily in 2004.

FF effectively don't have an EU parliament grouping (worth speaking about anyway)

[mccafferty cat]

Indeed there are challenges ahead, but those involved managed to over come all the odds set against them in the run up to the first Lisbon referendum.

Sorry, but what odds were stacked against them? They spent more money than all other political parties combined, and had more airtime than Fine Gael and Labour combined.

That's odds stacked in their favour, if anything

[Munion]

I woudn't suspect there will be much crossover between Libertas and UKIP. They both advocate vert different ideas about Europe.



I can see an awful lot of people looking like idiots while doing so. If you want to be one of them then that is your choice and your problem.

Fair play for "getting in the ring" and contesting the elections but expect that phrase to be heard a lot.

Sure politico's like you and me know it isn't exactly completely truthful but elections aren't won and lost on politically aware peoples votes.

[constitutionus]

ok i was heading out but when listening to eamonn keanes lunchtime show on newstalk im pretty sure i heard him mention stitting TDs being a part of this.

anyone got any guesses.

can they DO that or does the double jobbing thing that stops em being councillors kick in with europe too?

maybe i got it wrong and he referenced past members but any clarity on this would be welcome !

[CookieMonster]

Sorry, but what odds were stacked against them? They spent more money than all other political parties combined, and had more airtime than Fine Gael and Labour combined.

That's odds stacked in their favour, if anything

They didn't have the established background of the main political parties, they were in opposition to those parties and they also had the main media organs of the country against them. They has numerous weirdo people making stuff up about the group's leader and they worked for every minute of media time, every colum inch and every vote that they got.

[Bobert]

ok i was heading out but when listening to eamonn keanes lunchtime show on newstalk im pretty sure i heard him mention stitting TDs being a part of this.

anyone got any guesses.

can they DO that or does the double jobbing thing that stops em being councillors kick in with europe too?

maybe i got it wrong and he referenced past members but any clarity on this would be welcome !

Stiring things up now...

[CookieMonster]

ok i was heading out but when listening to eamonn keanes lunchtime show on newstalk im pretty sure i heard him mention stitting TDs being a part of this.

anyone got any guesses.

can they DO that or does the double jobbing thing that stops em being councillors kick in with europe too?

maybe i got it wrong and he referenced past members but any clarity on this would be welcome !

You'll just have to wait and see. Exciting times ahead!

[goosebump]

....every vote that they got.

Have LIbertas fielded a candidate in an election somewhere, or are you suggesting that No votes are Libertas votes?

What makes them Libertas votes, as opposed to say, Jim Corr votes?