EU Warships

[constitutionus]

whoa ho lads !

looked like somebody nixed the EU NAVY bit. the page was re edited at 16.23 today

maybe said something they wernt meant to and the powers that be stood in.

[He3]

whoa ho lads !

looked like somebody nixed the EU NAVY bit. the page was re edited at 16.23 today

maybe said something they wernt meant to and the powers that be stood in.

EU Warships scuttled by RTÉ.

Couldn't be P.ie power, could it? Faster acting than Anadin.

Next for the airbrush:

EU warships - Google Search

[constitutionus]

LOVE the one in the guardian.

britain to lead an armada of EU warships !

lord !

[Bobert]

Of course this is about Lisbon. Look at the people who started this thread. No-one except the Lisbon-obsessed cares what the media call ships that fight pirates.

No it isn't! EurFor existed long before Lisbon! And to say that only No voters have an interest in this is ridiculous.

[ibis]

IT'S NOT ABOUT LISBON! ******************** sake, starting to sound like FT at this stage.

Of course this is about Lisbon. Look at the people who started this thread. No-one except the Lisbon-obsessed cares what the media call ships that fight pirates.

Yup. The only reason for these threads is to create FUD in advance of any second referendum.

No it isn't! EurFor existed long before Lisbon! And to say that only No voters have an interest in this is ridiculous.

And was that context explained....? Why no! It wasn't, and won't be. This thread is a standard He3 FUD thread, and I'm afraid it is all about Lisbon.

[constitutionus]

jaysus and people think IM paranoid.

the fact is the defacto formation of an EU NAVY is news.

as even the heavily edited RTE site admits its NEVER been done before and they refer to EU officials being behind it. not a coalition of countries deciding to help out.

this is a whole new ball game and people are right to pay attention to it.

[Bobert]

Yup. The only reason for these threads is to create FUD in advance of any second referendum.

Zomg! So if I start a thread on cap it's to create FUD?

And was that context explained....? Why no! It wasn't, and won't be. This thread is a standard He3 FUD thread, and I'm afraid it is all about Lisbon.

So how come the person who first mentioned lisbon is a tea side crank?

[ibis]

...the defacto formation of an EU NAVY...

Well, no. It's the coordination by the EU of a temporary task force, where every element is on loan from member states and the objectives are set by the foreign ministers of the member states. The EU is the 'framework' for coordination, just as the UN would be under other circumstances.

So, claiming it to be the "de facto formation of an EU NAVY" is indeed paranoid, and ridiculous. If you are opposed to the use of the EU as a framework for military coordination, that's a valid position - your alarmism, on the other hand, is not.

[constitutionus]

Well, no. It's the coordination by the EU of a temporary task force, where every element is on loan from member states and the objectives are set by the foreign ministers of the member states. The EU is the 'framework' for coordination, just as the UN would be under other circumstances.

So, claiming it to be the "de facto formation of an EU NAVY" is indeed paranoid, and ridiculous. If you are opposed to the use of the EU as a framework for military coordination, that's a valid position - your alarmism, on the other hand, is not.

looks like an armada of warships to me with air support , all answering to some guys in brussles.

using bertisms to get around that really doesnt change the reality. its an EU navy in everyting but name.

and who says its temporary?

in fact what does "temporary" mean cause the most experience i have of that word from officialdom was to do with the temporary halting site in tallaght and thats been there for 30 YEARS .

[Bobert]

I have to ask, where does Rsf stand on this?