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    Who's responsible for Cornwalls coast

    An interesting question has been raised by the Stannary Parliament here. If the Crown Estate, as ultimate owner, is responsible for the foreshore and natural coastline of England then who currently takes responsibilty for the protection of the Cornish foreshore considering that the Duchy of Cornwall is the ultimate owner of said foreshore? The Duchy certainly doesn't seem to!

    Stannary Complaint: Cornish Stannary Parliament Archives - Complaint – The exclusion of Cornwall from the Marine Stewardship project and the Marine Communities Fund of the Crown Estate.


    Although most of the foreshore around the UK is crown property this is not the case in Cornwall where the rights have been ceded to The Duchy of Cornwall: "The Crown Estate has no holdings within the boundaries of Cornwall. Foreshore and other properties that would, in most Counties, be the property of the Crown Estate are, in Cornwall, not owned by the Crown Estate," confirmed Tim Riley, the Crown Estate Librarian, in January 2005.

    Under the Articles of Agreement between the Crown and the Duchy of Cornwall, made law by the Cornwall Submarine Mines Act 1958, the mineral rights beneath the foreshore were assigned to the Duke of Cornwall. The legal position was confirmed: "The Duchy of Cornwallis vested in the Prince of Wales (who is) entitled to the annual income," by the Prime Minister and recorded in Hansard (27 March 1996).

    In its complaint to GOSW the Stannary Parliament claims that "The Duke of Cornwall does not offer a Marine Stewardship Project or a Marine Communities Fund as might be reasonably be expected of the owner of the foreshore of Cornwall in light of the Crown Estates example."

    "Recent meetings of the "Save our Sand Hayle" and the "Hayle Towans Partnership"
    have expressed serious concern at the accelerating depletion of sand caused by commercial exploitation, yet have not contacted the Crown Estate or the Duchy of Cornwall as a landowner," writes E.R. Nute, keeper of the Stannary Parliament's seal.

    In it's lengthy letter, which quotes many legal extracts drawing attention to the Duchy's ownership of Cornwall's foreshore, the Parliament complains that: "Clear administrative responsibilities are, however, not immediately apparent," and adds that Cornwall County Council is expected, "Not to take away any of the rights, powers, privelidges or authority of the Duchy of Cornwall, under section 50 of the Cornwall County Council Act 1981."

    As a consequence the Stannary Parliament is asking GOSW: "Who is legally responsible for ensuring the protection and survival of the foreshore and natural coastline of Cornwall in compliance with European Union Decisions and Directives....?"



    Considering such feudal institutions as the Duchy of Cornwall which fly in the face of democracy and human rights, does the UK meet the entry requirements for the EU?

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    There is an interesting discussion about Cornish Independence at the Guardian today...

    Peter Tatchell: Self-rule for Cornwall | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

    It gives a pro-Independence angle. I found this a surprise.

    The quest for Cornish devolved government is driven by deprivation. Rule from Westminster has seen Cornwall decline, from being at the forefront of the industrial revolution, to becoming one of the poorest regions of Europe, now qualifying for EU assistance to make up the shortfall in funding from Whitehall.

    In the October 2001 issue of Business Age Magazine, Kevin Cahill wrote a feature headed: The Killing of Cornwall. He noted that the Treasury extracts £1.95bn in taxes out of Cornwall's GDP of £3.6 billion. However, the Treasury returns less than £1.65 billion, so there is a net loss to Cornwall of £300 million. This extraction of wealth is happening in a region of England where earnings are 24% below the national average.


    Great case for self rule there!

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    actually it really tells us nothing - how is the rest of the UK taxed ?

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    From Economy of Cornwall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The economy of Cornwall, in the United Kingdom, is largely dependent upon agriculture followed by tourism. Cornwall is one of the poorest areas in the United Kingdom with a GDP of 62% of the national average
    From BBC NEWS | England | Cornwall | Cornwall awaits upturn

    Cornwall gained European Objective One status in 1999 after the county's official measure of prosperity - known as Gross Domestic Product (GDP) - was shown to be below the trigger level of 75% of the EU average.
    It seems like the region is being neglected by centralisation. It is one of the poorest regions of the UK, they have a formula called the Barnett formula or something which distributes funds unevenly across the UK, but if despite these figures of relative deprivation Cornwall is receiving less back than what it puts in, that is a bad deal whichever way you look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thranduil View Post
    There is an interesting discussion about Cornish Independence at the Guardian today...

    Peter Tatchell: Self-rule for Cornwall | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

    It gives a pro-Independence angle. I found this a surprise.

    The quest for Cornish devolved government is driven by deprivation. Rule from Westminster has seen Cornwall decline, from being at the forefront of the industrial revolution, to becoming one of the poorest regions of Europe, now qualifying for EU assistance to make up the shortfall in funding from Whitehall.

    In the October 2001 issue of Business Age Magazine, Kevin Cahill wrote a feature headed: The Killing of Cornwall. He noted that the Treasury extracts £1.95bn in taxes out of Cornwall's GDP of £3.6 billion. However, the Treasury returns less than £1.65 billion, so there is a net loss to Cornwall of £300 million. This extraction of wealth is happening in a region of England where earnings are 24% below the national average.


    Great case for self rule there!


    Put it to the people of Cornwall in a referendum. Then, when about 2.5% vote in fovour, the issue will be settled.

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    The Cornish sound like a bunch of moany Kerry people to me.
    Maybe what they need is a Jackie Healy Rae figure!
    "The peeple of south Perranporth have been deprived.........................."


    Vlad The Impaler was the original stakeholder!

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