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    EU Extremists meeting to form "EU Right-Wing Party"

    They're going to gather in Cologne for a big summit, or "congress" as it's referred to here.

    From German-Foreign-Policy.com (anyone on here read that site?) First paragraph is quite meaty:
    At an international congress to be held in Cologne over the coming weekend, right-wing extremist parties, from several EU nations, will seek to consolidate their cooperation. The chairman of "Pro-Koeln," which is organizing the congress, announced that the "intermediate" objective is the founding of a "European right-wing party." Among the participants are organizations from Belgium (Vlaams Belang), the FPÖ (Austrian Freedom Party - AFP) and the Italian (Lega Nord). The European right-wing party, whose German partner is yet to be determined - even the Nationalist Party of Germany (NPD) is in consideration - is supposed to field candidates for the European parliamentary elections and constitute a parliamentary group once elected. The campaign focuses on the fight against Islam. This campaign is using the animosity prevalent also outside of right-wing extremist circles that is being strongly fomented in the context of the "war on terror." This could "possibly lead to an electoral success of the prospective right-wing party," according to Alexander Haeusler, an expert on right-wing extremism in a discussion with german-foreign-policy.com. The new structure, to be extended to all of Europe, is based upon the old tradition of collaboration with Nazi Germany.
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    Re: EU Extremists meeting to form "EU Right-Wing Party"

    Quote Originally Posted by Al.
    They're going to gather in Cologne for a big summit, or "congress" as it's referred to here.

    From German-Foreign-Policy.com (anyone on here read that site?) First paragraph is quite meaty:
    At an international congress to be held in Cologne over the coming weekend, right-wing extremist parties, from several EU nations, will seek to consolidate their cooperation. The chairman of "Pro-Koeln," which is organizing the congress, announced that the "intermediate" objective is the founding of a "European right-wing party." Among the participants are organizations from Belgium (Vlaams Belang), the FPÖ (Austrian Freedom Party - AFP) and the Italian (Lega Nord). The European right-wing party, whose German partner is yet to be determined - even the Nationalist Party of Germany (NPD) is in consideration - is supposed to field candidates for the European parliamentary elections and constitute a parliamentary group once elected. The campaign focuses on the fight against Islam. This campaign is using the animosity prevalent also outside of right-wing extremist circles that is being strongly fomented in the context of the "war on terror." This could "possibly lead to an electoral success of the prospective right-wing party," according to Alexander Haeusler, an expert on right-wing extremism in a discussion with german-foreign-policy.com. The new structure, to be extended to all of Europe, is based upon the old tradition of collaboration with Nazi Germany.
    Well I'd be wrong if I said that that isn't worrying, but if they do gain support it does expose an even more worrying trend that there is a political will there for these sorts of people.
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    Re: EU Extremists meeting to form "EU Right-Wing Party"

    The thing about right-wing xenophobes is that they are so opposed to foreigners its almost impossible to form a union with any other nation's party

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    Re: EU Extremists meeting to form "EU Right-Wing Party"

    The thread is somewhat misleading. The groups have no connection with the EU.

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    Re: EU Extremists meeting to form "EU Right-Wing Party"

    Quote Originally Posted by Magror14
    The thread is somewhat misleading. The groups have no connection with the EU.
    They are all from EU member states, otherwise they coudn't field candidates the the European elections.
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    Re: EU Extremists meeting to form "EU Right-Wing Party"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magror14
    The thread is somewhat misleading. The groups have no connection with the EU.
    They are all from EU member states, otherwise they coudn't field candidates the the European elections.
    EU Extremists implies extremely pro-EU whereas these guys are extremely anti-EU.

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    Re: EU Extremists meeting to form "EU Right-Wing Party"

    Quote Originally Posted by Magror14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magror14
    The thread is somewhat misleading. The groups have no connection with the EU.
    They are all from EU member states, otherwise they coudn't field candidates the the European elections.
    EU Extremists implies extremely pro-EU whereas these guys are extremely anti-EU.
    Perhaps, but that's not what you pointed out above.
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    Re: EU Extremists meeting to form "EU Right-Wing Party"

    Quote Originally Posted by 20000miles
    The thing about right-wing xenophobes is that they are so opposed to foreigners its almost impossible to form a union with any other nation's party
    These ones are particularly averse to non-Europeans. Note the bit about past collaboration, which looks like the spirit in which these people will be joining.
    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster
    if they do gain support it does expose an even more worrying trend that there is a political will there for these sorts of people
    Their very existence, and the fact that they can assemble themselves even in a muster of this size, indicates such a political will. Note the successes of the NPD of Germany, in particular, le Front National in France, and Alleanza Nazionale/Lega Nord in Italy.
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    The groups have no connection with the EU
    What kind of "connection" are you referring to? People that are citizens of EU member states are "connected with" the EU. What other "connection" is needed? and who is to say that such people are not part of the impetus for a union in the first place?
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    these guys are extremely anti-EU
    No, I don't think so, otherwise they would not be trying to infiltrate its political structure, limited and limiting as it is, but with a singular President with absolute power (which is what Lisbon intended and intends to impose on the EU), if they achieve a bloc with sufficient power, such a president sympathetic to them could indeed be placed in power.

    I surmise that they are fond of the fact that there is some sort of union actually in place, which means no need for violent conquest, if they can hijack it, thus no waste of resources in that endeavour. IOW, they are anti the EU in its current form, apart from the "union" bit, and have the ambition of reshaping it into their desired form. Right-wingers who go as far as the ideals of National Socialism and Fascism may be nationalistic, but they are anything but isolationist, being highly imperialistic and expansionistic instead. Their nationalism goes only as far as establishing themselves as the dominant people(s).
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    Re: EU Extremists meeting to form "EU Right-Wing Party"

    Quote Originally Posted by Al.
    No, I don't think so, otherwise they would not be trying to infiltrate its political structure, limited and limiting as it is, but with a singular President with absolute power (which is what Lisbon intended and intends to impose on the EU) . . .

    No it didn't. You obviously never read the treaty.

    There is currently a part time President of the European Council, an office first held by Liam Cosgrave in 1975 and which is rotated between prime ministers. The workload with 27 members is way too much to be done part-time. All the treaty does is change the post from a part-time revolving post, to a full-time one, for a term of 2 and a half years.

    As for 'absolute power' - are you kidding? He will have no power. All he is is a chairman of meetings. He chairs them. He travels to the member states to meet the various governments to find out what they want on the agenda. Between European Council meetings he then represents the council as chairman at meetings. He can take no decision without council approval. He cannot spend a single cent. He cannot do anything. Your average county councillor will have more power than the full-time President of the European Council.

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    Re: EU Extremists meeting to form "EU Right-Wing Party"

    Quote Originally Posted by Al.
    but with a singular President with absolute power (which is what Lisbon intended and intends to impose on the EU), if they achieve a bloc with sufficient power, such a president sympathetic to them could indeed be placed in power.


    Even FT would never claim anything as demented as that - are you p!ssed or something?
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