Heard Brian Lenihan on the radio saying cross party consensus wont be required on next move. As a rerun without labour would be very risky (central plank of every yes campaign is to smear no side as extreme right or left) i reckon what they are thinking of is a pact between FF & FG on parliamentary ratification.
would be unconstitutional as I am sure you are aware
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But is it? Much legal opinion is 90-95% percent of it could be done this way.
Not after it has already been rejected by a referendum. Whatever merit that approach had, if any, prior to the referendum, it has none now. If Gilmore stays firm in his opposition I cannot not see FF&FG re-running Lisbon. Although I would not be particularly confident in Labour staying firm. FG would be mad to go down the legislative route giving FF political cover, but then again you can always rely on FG to take every opportunity to shoot themselves in the foot.Originally Posted by eurosceptic
If it was referred to the SC, the Court would appraise the Bill on its consitutional merits, not on whether it was formerly put to the people in a referendum. If nothing else, it would clarify Crotty.Not after it has already been rejected by a referendum. Whatever merit that approach had, if any, prior to the referendum, it has none now.
"Unless you are an absolute pacifist, then you acknowledge that there are times when taking up arms is appropriate."
- cactusflower
The Oireachtas acting without the unanimous approval of the Dail is unconstitutional?
That would make every piece of legislation on our Statute Book unconstitutional.
A demagogue is someone who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.
FG won't agree to that. The people have spoken.
And that's the Enda that
FG won't agree to that. The people have spoken.
"Unless you are an absolute pacifist, then you acknowledge that there are times when taking up arms is appropriate."
- cactusflower
Given the elitist reactions of FG figures to the no vote, I wouldn't put it past them, but FF might be more likely to rerun the vote with some figleaves on neutrality, abortion and tax instead.
FG won't agree to that. The people have spoken.
And if such a referendum was passed, presumably you'd accept the people's verdict, and demand that the No side do the same?
"Elite - a small superior group; esp one that has a power out of proportion to its size." (Oxford English Dictionary)
The majority cannot therefore be the elite.
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