Lisbon's impact on Euro elections 2009

[FutureTaoiseach]

I am hostile to SF's domestic policies. Nonetheless I am seriously considering voting for them in the European elections (not Dail or local ones) because I feel there is a need for more balance between Euro-integrationist and sovereigntist sentiment regarding the Irish debate on the EU. At present it tilted too far in favour of the yes-men/women, with only 2 Eurosceptic TDs (McDonald and Sinnott).

Anyone else in my position? And how would the outcome of Lisbon impact - if at all - on the results of the Euro elections in 2009?

[Dunny]

I am hostile to SF's domestic policies. Nonetheless I am seriously considering voting for them in the European elections (not Dail or local ones) because I feel there is a need for more balance between Euro-integrationist and sovereigntist sentiment regarding the Irish debate on the EU. At present it tilted too far in favour of the yes-men/women, with only 2 Eurosceptic TDs (McDonald and Sinnott).

Anyone else in my position? And how would the outcome of Lisbon impact - if at all - on the results of the Euro elections in 2009?

You are some plank. You change positions quicker than a hooker turns over!!

[FutureTaoiseach]

I am hostile to SF's domestic policies. Nonetheless I am seriously considering voting for them in the European elections (not Dail or local ones) because I feel there is a need for more balance between Euro-integrationist and sovereigntist sentiment regarding the Irish debate on the EU. At present it tilted too far in favour of the yes-men/women, with only 2 Eurosceptic TDs (McDonald and Sinnott).

Anyone else in my position? And how would the outcome of Lisbon impact - if at all - on the results of the Euro elections in 2009?

You are some plank. You change positions quicker than a hooker turns over!!

How do you know.

[QuizMaster]

I will not post up my opinions of either of those two MEPs for fear of getting David sued.
If you read my previous posts, you will find I am no SF supporter.
Well let's just say I'd vote for the shinners above Sinnott. Many SF members have an IQ of over 100.

I heard her say once that the vapour trails of long haul planes are a good form of protection against UV radiation.

[Dunny]

I am hostile to SF's domestic policies. Nonetheless I am seriously considering voting for them in the European elections (not Dail or local ones) because I feel there is a need for more balance between Euro-integrationist and sovereigntist sentiment regarding the Irish debate on the EU. At present it tilted too far in favour of the yes-men/women, with only 2 Eurosceptic TDs (McDonald and Sinnott).

Anyone else in my position? And how would the outcome of Lisbon impact - if at all - on the results of the Euro elections in 2009?

You are some plank. You change positions quicker than a hooker turns over!!

How do you know.

Because Ive seen you flip flop on parties, policies and positions for the past 2 years...next you will start saying you support Trade Unions!!

[kerrynorth]

The Shinners may as well pack up their bags now. Be it the PD's or Bertie every party FT touches turns to dust.
SHINNERS YER SCREWED!

[Kerrygold]

The Shinners may as well pack up their bags now. Be it the PD's or Bertie every party FT touches turns to dust.
SHINNERS YER SCREWED!

But the fact that you have predicted our demise has just saved our bacon.

Thanks KN.

[woodie]

If you look at previous EU treaty referenda and subsequent elections, those politicians who took a strong eurosceptic stance subsequently bombed.

Dana Scallon and Patricia McKenna were prominent in the anti-Nice campaign yet both lost their seats in the next EP elections. Look how Mary Lou McDonald did in last year's General Election. Is it possible that the latest falls in SF's opinion poll results may have something to do with their stance against Lisbon?

I think the Irish population is generally pro-European and is wary of having reps in Europe who aren't.

[QuizMaster]

If you look at previous EU treaty referenda and subsequent elections, those politicians who took a strong eurosceptic stance subsequently bombed.

Dana Scallon and Patricia McKenna were prominent in the anti-Nice campaign yet both lost their seats in the next EP elections. Look how Mary Lou McDonald did in last year's General Election. Is it possible that the latest falls in SF's opinion poll results may have something to do with their stance against Lisbon?

I think the Irish population is generally pro-European and is wary of having reps in Europe who aren't.

I can't agree with your analysis.
Dana lost her seat because she was rubbish.
Patricia lost, after 10 years of faithful service despite being great *ahem*.
I think what happened in Dublin was that the Greens tried something in 1994* that worked so well that everyone decided to have a go at the same thing, and she was got by her copycats.
After all, the very election that unseated P McK elected ML McD, a well-known eurosceptic.

*running a smart sassy young woman to make the old party apparatchiks look tired and out of ideas

[MacCoise]

If you look at previous EU treaty referenda and subsequent elections, those politicians who took a strong eurosceptic stance subsequently bombed.

Dana Scallon and Patricia McKenna were prominent in the anti-Nice campaign yet both lost their seats in the next EP elections. Look how Mary Lou McDonald did in last year's General Election. Is it possible that the latest falls in SF's opinion poll results may have something to do with their stance against Lisbon?

I think the Irish population is generally pro-European and is wary of having reps in Europe who aren't.

Well, Sinn Féin got more votes than Labour in the last Europeans so the federalist approach seems to appeal less than "euroscepticism" whatever that is.