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    Quote Originally Posted by razorblade View Post
    I really hope that fixture wont be a casualty of any potential breakaway Catalonian state, for the good of football that must never be allowed to happen regardless if Catalonia gets independence or not.
    My guess is that the football split will be as complete and bitter as the one here. There is a lot of wishful thinking on the part of fans but once there is a political split, it will follow into football with Barcelona the big losers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorblade View Post
    I really hope that fixture wont be a casualty of any potential breakaway Catalonian state, for the good of football that must never be allowed to happen regardless if Catalonia gets independence or not.
    If Catalonia gets independence then what would the argument be for Barcelona to remain in the Spanish league?

    If they get independence then they'd have to set up their own league. Then Barcalona and Espanyol could be the 2 horses in a 2 horse race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimples 77 View Post
    If Catalonia gets independence then what would the argument be for Barcelona to remain in the Spanish league?

    If they get independence then they'd have to set up their own league. Then Barcalona and Espanyol could be the 2 horses in a 2 horse race.
    Girona are also in the top division. Monaco are in the French league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northsideman View Post
    Girona are also in the top division. Monaco are in the French league.
    It will probably take a couple of seasons to resolve. My guess is that a bitter political split will mean a football split. Will Barcelona get into the CL straight away, if not, where will the revenue come from? Will south American talent still want to play for them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    My guess is that the football split will be as complete and bitter as the one here. There is a lot of wishful thinking on the part of fans but once there is a political split, it will follow into football with Barcelona the big losers.
    True enough.

    They can hardly claim "we're independent from Spain. Now can our big famous team stay in the Spanish league?".

    I agree that there will be a lot of wishful thinking about this. But the Spanish Football Federation has taken a very hard position with respect to Gibraltar being admitted to UEFA and FIFA, and I can't imagine that they are going to be too open to being nice to a current part of Spain that actually leaves Spain.
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    If this kicks off (no pun intended) there could be bodies in the streets, football will mean little then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorblade View Post
    I really hope that fixture wont be a casualty of any potential breakaway Catalonian state, for the good of football that must never be allowed to happen regardless if Catalonia gets independence or not.
    Don't worry, Barca will be the new Cardiff hopping over the border for the big league.

    If they do not allow the referendum to go ahead, as planned, then surely this will be the tipping point. Moderate people don't like groups claiming to talk for everyone, as in nationalist. Alas, moderate people will take huge offence at armed services raiding election stations. The middle will swing this, and the more severe the crack down the bigger the swing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northsideman View Post
    Girona are also in the top division. Monaco are in the French league.
    What would the argument be for Barcelona to remain in the Spanish league?

    Monaco is a one-off situation. There were/are friendly relations between Monaco (the state) and France. There wouldn't be friendly relations between Spain and Catalonia. And Monaco has never applied for membership of UEFA or FIFA, so it isn't competing with France.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadaist View Post
    Don't worry, Barca will be the new Cardiff hopping over the border for the big league.

    If they do not allow the referendum to go ahead, as planned, then surely this will be the tipping point. Moderate people don't like groups claiming to talk for everyone, as in nationalist. Alas, moderate people will take huge offence at armed services raiding election stations. The middle will swing this, and the more severe the crack down the bigger the swing.

    The Spanish Football Federation would be unlikely to invite Barcelona to participate in their system.

    If Catalonia wants to be independent then it would have to independent. Then Barcelona could win all of Catalonia's competitions every year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimples 77 View Post
    What would the argument be for Barcelona to remain in the Spanish league?

    Monaco is a one-off situation. There were/are friendly relations between Monaco (the state) and France. There wouldn't be friendly relations between Spain and Catalonia. And Monaco has never applied for membership of UEFA or FIFA, so it isn't competing with France.
    What about Espanyol, they are a pro Spanish club with a pro spanish support? The Spanish FA couldn't abandon them and if they're in then why not Barca?

    Besides they need Barca for many more reasons than they'd want rid.
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