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    Dame_Enda Dame_Enda is offline
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    He is humiliating the EU by using refugee flows as blackmail.

    Secular Turkey is dead and gone. Islamic autocracy has replaced it.

    If Le Pen had said Turkey wanted to do this the Left Liberal/Globalists would have called her a racist. But now look - Erdogan is saying it.
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    However demographics will bring about a united Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    However demographics will bring about a united Ireland.
    A United Caliphate before that.
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    Is NATO/EU hesitant about restraining Erdogan, because they don't want Turkey to fall under Russian influence?

    Surely, he has kicked Turkish EU entry under the bus. Who exactly is he playing to, or is this his idea of power broker?

    It would be funny if it weren't so serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by igCorcaigh View Post
    Is NATO/EU hesitant about restraining Erdogan, because they don't want Turkey to fall under Russian influence?

    Surely, he has kicked Turkish EU entry under the bus. Who exactly is he playing to, or is this his idea of power broker?

    It would be funny if it weren't so serious.
    Turkey falling under Russian influence is part of it. The refugee issue is part of it. but actually letting into the EU is not something I think the EU ever really took seriously except as a tease to keep them from running to Moscow or falling under the influence of anti western forces. Unfortunately this has failed. Also the US has 50 nukes in Incirlik.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    Turkey falling under Russian influence is part of it. The refugee issue is part of it. but actually letting into the EU is not something I think the EU ever really took seriously except as a tease to keep them from running to Moscow or falling under the influence of anti western forces. Unfortunately this has failed. Also the US has 50 nukes in Incirlik.
    Right, the gambits. Putin is surely more clever than that. Is Erdogan holding the Western powers hostage then?
    For what, or whom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by igCorcaigh View Post
    Right, the gambits. Putin is surely more clever than that. Is Erdogan holding the Western powers hostage then?
    For what, or whom?
    Money from the EU under the refugee deal. He also wants EU membership so he can realise his stated plan to Islamise Europe through immigration. The dalliance with Putin is showing the EU and NATO he has options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trampas View Post
    .....and those who have their heads stuck up their holes will also have a field day.
    You'll be happy, so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesiscorporation View Post
    There is enough ammunition to keep every racist and agitator going for a decade.
    As if we needed more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgellons View Post
    As if we needed more.
    Propaganda on Youtube is bounteous. You'll find it easy.
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