Immigration Controls in Europe. When do borders open?

[thejuggler]

Can't seem to find any info online on this.
Ireland and UK have been open to immigrant workers from outside the EU for a couple of years now and as a result we have welcomed hundreds of thousands of Polish and Eastern European workers.
Am I correct in thinking that Germany France etc will be opening their borders on Jan 1st 2009? Will this make it likely that many of those who came to Ireland during the last few years will relocate to central european countries to be closer to home.

The economic slowdown here and in the UK will take its toll too I'm sure.

I remember at some point seeing a map of europe showing the date of lifting of restrictions for each EU country. Has anyone got a link to this map?

[kerrynorth]

Germany loosened restrictions for skilled workers last November with full opening due for the end 09. All the EU 15 must open their labour markets by May 2011.

[andrew]

Countries can impose restrictions up until the 1st of May 2011 it seems.

[monsieur]

Can't seem to find any info online on this.
Ireland and UK have been open to immigrant workers from outside the EU for a couple of years now and as a result we have welcomed hundreds of thousands of Polish and Eastern European workers.
Am I correct in thinking that Germany France etc will be opening their borders on Jan 1st 2009? Will this make it likely that many of those who came to Ireland during the last few years will relocate to central european countries to be closer to home.

The economic slowdown here and in the UK will take its toll too I'm sure.

I remember at some point seeing a map of europe showing the date of lifting of restrictions for each EU country. Has anyone got a link to this map?

Ireland is NOT open to immigrants from outside the E.U. Polish workers and their fellow Eastern Europe neighbours from nine other new E.U. countries have been and continue to be welcome here since 2004. Romanians and Bulgarians, fellow E.U. citizens are not permitted to work here without work permits although they would be given preference over foreigners.
All others, classified as foreigners/non nationals etc. require work permits that are paid for by their prospective employers and they are very expensive.

When we joined the E.U. in 1973 we had the right to work anywhere but fellow E.U. people were not permitted to work here without a work permit until 1978.

[pocleary]

Can't seem to find any info online on this.
Ireland and UK have been open to immigrant workers from outside the EU for a couple of years now and as a result we have welcomed hundreds of thousands of Polish and Eastern European workers.
Am I correct in thinking that Germany France etc will be opening their borders on Jan 1st 2009? Will this make it likely that many of those who came to Ireland during the last few years will relocate to central european countries to be closer to home.

The economic slowdown here and in the UK will take its toll too I'm sure.

I remember at some point seeing a map of europe showing the date of lifting of restrictions for each EU country. Has anyone got a link to this map?

Ireland is NOT open to immigrants from outside the E.U. Polish workers and their fellow Eastern Europe neighbours from nine other new E.U. countries have been and continue to be welcome here since 2004. Romanians and Bulgarians, fellow E.U. citizens are not permitted to work here without work permits although they would be given preference over foreigners.
All others, classified as foreigners/non nationals etc. require work permits that are paid for by their prospective employers and they are very expensive.

When we joined the E.U. in 1973 we had the right to work anywhere but fellow E.U. people were not permitted to work here without a work permit until 1978.

add to the above that non native passport holders of eec countries have no automatic right to travel in the eec, so a west indian or nigerian with a british passport who was not born in britain cant legally move to ireland or other eec countries, that the scam nigereians are into, they are mostly british africans who know they have no right to move to ireland so fiddle it and claim asylum,

[Eddie Collins]

Can't seem to find any info online on this.
Ireland and UK have been open to immigrant workers from outside the EU for a couple of years now and as a result we have welcomed hundreds of thousands of Polish and Eastern European workers.
Am I correct in thinking that Germany France etc will be opening their borders on Jan 1st 2009? Will this make it likely that many of those who came to Ireland during the last few years will relocate to central european countries to be closer to home.

The economic slowdown here and in the UK will take its toll too I'm sure.

I remember at some point seeing a map of europe showing the date of lifting of restrictions for each EU country. Has anyone got a link to this map?

Ireland is NOT open to immigrants from outside the E.U. Polish workers and their fellow Eastern Europe neighbours from nine other new E.U. countries have been and continue to be welcome here since 2004. Romanians and Bulgarians, fellow E.U. citizens are not permitted to work here without work permits although they would be given preference over foreigners.
All others, classified as foreigners/non nationals etc. require work permits that are paid for by their prospective employers and they are very expensive.

When we joined the E.U. in 1973 we had the right to work anywhere but fellow E.U. people were not permitted to work here without a work permit until 1978.

add to the above that non native passport holders of eec countries have no automatic right to travel in the eec, so a west indian or nigerian with a british passport who was not born in britain cant legally move to ireland or other eec countries, that the scam nigereians are into, they are mostly british africans who know they have no right to move to ireland so fiddle it and claim asylum,

The Dutch gave Dutch passports to 20,000 Somali immigrants - who then moved to the UK.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... wsom21.xml

[corkman2007]

Not so poc: if you've got a British passport and British nationality you're automatically a citizen of the EU. You've posted the same misinformation on another thread. Perhaps you're confused because there are different levels of British citizenship, there's full citizenship and then there's lesser grades of citizenship: British Overseas Territories Citizenship and British Overseas Citizenship. The latter grades were introduced because the British government decided that British citizens from the (former) empire should have restrictions places on their right to live and work in the UK.

Only people who have full British Citizenship have the right to live and work in the UK (and the rest of the EU) without immigration restrictions.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/britis ... tizenship/

[corkman2007]

Can't seem to find any info online on this.
Ireland and UK have been open to immigrant workers from outside the EU for a couple of years now and as a result we have welcomed hundreds of thousands of Polish and Eastern European workers.
Am I correct in thinking that Germany France etc will be opening their borders on Jan 1st 2009? Will this make it likely that many of those who came to Ireland during the last few years will relocate to central european countries to be closer to home.

The economic slowdown here and in the UK will take its toll too I'm sure.

I remember at some point seeing a map of europe showing the date of lifting of restrictions for each EU country. Has anyone got a link to this map?

Can't find a map, but there's a very easy to use set-up here:

http://ec.europa.eu/eures/home.jsp?lang=en

Click on the link called 'Check here to see which rules apply to you' (left side of web-page).

You can then select a country from drop down boxes with the full list of EU member-states to see 'Which rules apply in:' (name of country) 'for job seekers who are citizens of:' (name of country).

Some EU countries lifted restrictions on citizens from the newer member-states in 2006 and 2007; others modified the restrictions in place. The following countries now have full freedom of movement for workers from all the countries that joined in 2004:

Ireland, UK, Sweden (the original three), joined by Spain, Finland, Greece, Portugal & Italy in 2006, joined by Netherlands and Luxembourg in 2007. Of the 15 EU countries that were members before 2004, only 5 still have restrictions in place.

10 countries have no restrictions on the free movement of workers from Romania and Bulgaria: Czech Republic, Estonia, Cyprus, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovenia, Slovakia, Finland and Sweden.

http://ec.europa.eu/employment_social/f ... dex_en.htm

Restrictions on the free movement of workers from the states that joined in 2004 must be lifted by 1 May 2011 at the latest; restrictions on Bulgarian and Romanian workers must be lifted by 1 January 2014.

[Trampas]

Can't seem to find any info online on this.
Ireland and UK have been open to immigrant workers from outside the EU for a couple of years now and as a result we have welcomed hundreds of thousands of Polish and Eastern European workers.
Am I correct in thinking that Germany France etc will be opening their borders on Jan 1st 2009? Will this make it likely that many of those who came to Ireland during the last few years will relocate to central european countries to be closer to home.

The economic slowdown here and in the UK will take its toll too I'm sure.

I remember at some point seeing a map of europe showing the date of lifting of restrictions for each EU country. Has anyone got a link to this map?

Can't find a map, but there's a very easy to use set-up here:

http://ec.europa.eu/eures/home.jsp?lang=en

Click on the link called 'Check here to see which rules apply to you' (left side of web-page).

You can then select a country from drop down boxes with the full list of EU member-states to see 'Which rules apply in:' (name of country) 'for job seekers who are citizens of:' (name of country).

Some EU countries lifted restrictions on citizens from the newer member-states in 2006 and 2007; others modified the restrictions in place. The following countries now have full freedom of movement for workers from all the countries that joined in 2004:

Ireland, UK, Sweden (the original three), joined by Spain, Finland, Greece, Portugal & Italy in 2006, joined by Netherlands and Luxembourg in 2007. Of the 15 EU countries that were members before 2004, only 5 still have restrictions in place.

10 countries have no restrictions on the free movement of workers from Romania and Bulgaria: Czech Republic, Estonia, Cyprus, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovenia, Slovakia, Finland and Sweden.

http://ec.europa.eu/employment_social/f ... dex_en.htm

Restrictions on the free movement of workers from the states that joined in 2004 must be lifted by 1 May 2011 at the latest; restrictions on Bulgarian and Romanian workers must be lifted by 1 January 2014.

Steady on there Corkman. You are in danger of having a cyber orgasm at the thought of all those restrictions being lifted.

[corkman2007]

Not a chance pal; I'm not a zboczony like some people around here.