EU 'anti-terror' measures - my email address??

[Arminius]

The EU's justice Minister Franco Frattini has drawn up a plan to strengthen anti-terror measures in the EU.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7080298.stm

As soon as this is ratified, and no doubt it will be (with maybe some minor adjustments to satisfy civil liberties groups, who will then mysteriously appear satisfied), it will no longer be enough to merely remove your smelly runners going through Dublin airport.

Here's a sample of what they will require:
quote:
"The plan also focuses on air passenger data, requiring EU states to collect 19 pieces of personal information about people flying to or from member states.

The information would include a phone number, e-mail address and payment details, and would be kept on file for 13 years. "

Just think about that. Your email address. To fight terror.

The BBC is already onside, judging by this inane comment:
"But the EU wants to reconnect with its often suspicious and hostile citizens by doing something that most people regard as worthwhile, says the BBC's Mark Mardell in Brussels. "

Also mooted is a plan to ensure that 'Setting up web sites that encourage violence or explain how to make bombs would become a criminal offence.'

Encourage violence? Ah yes, that could be then easily taken under the umbrella of 'hate crimes' legislation and used to silence, well, those who engage in hateful thoughts of course.

Eventually the full, astounding realisation of what the EU is really for will dawn on all. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[CookieMonster]

That's a very silly idea.

[Satan]

The EU's justice Minister Franco Frattini has drawn up a plan to strengthen anti-terror measures in the EU.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7080298.stm

As soon as this is ratified, and no doubt it will be (with maybe some minor adjustments to satisfy civil liberties groups, who will then mysteriously appear satisfied), it will no longer be enough to merely remove your smelly runners going through Dublin airport.

Here's a sample of what they will require:
quote:
"The plan also focuses on air passenger data, requiring EU states to collect 19 pieces of personal information about people flying to or from member states.

The information would include a phone number, e-mail address and payment details, and would be kept on file for 13 years. "

Just think about that. Your email address. To fight terror.

The BBC is already onside, judging by this inane comment:
"But the EU wants to reconnect with its often suspicious and hostile citizens by doing something that most people regard as worthwhile, says the BBC's Mark Mardell in Brussels. "

Also mooted is a plan to ensure that 'Setting up web sites that encourage violence or explain how to make bombs would become a criminal offence.'

Encourage violence? Ah yes, that could be then easily taken under the umbrella of 'hate crimes' legislation and used to silence, well, those who engage in hateful thoughts of course.

Eventually the full, astounding realisation of what the EU is really for will dawn on all. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

If you have nothing to hide ,you have nothing to fear.
If it puts an end to terrorism I am for it.

[TheBear]

<Mod>Moved to the Europe forum.</Mod>

[odie1kanobe]

If you book online then that info is already held.

In addition gaining access to Schengen countries (Spain only at the moment) requries lot of additional info now.

[Geekzilla]

If you have nothing to hide ,you have nothing to fear.
If it puts an end to terrorism I am for it.

How does having everybodys' email address on file fight terror?

Have you ever heard of the West Midlands Serious Crime Squad?

[Eddiepops]

This'll get gutted. What nonsense.

[youngdan]

A person can not get to 30 posts without proving he is an eejit.

[seabhcan]

Its no more stupid than any of the other ant-terrorism provisions.

How about baning water bottles from planes because a couple of teenagers come up with an impossible plan to manufacture Tatp explosive in the airplane toilets.

Ignore the fact that the 'terrorist' didn't have any of the ingredients, any knowledge of chemistry, airplane tickets or even passports.

Ignore the fact that the plan was chemically impossible, and didn't involve water.

Solution: a permanent ban on water bottles on airplanes. I feel safer now.

[sackville]

The EU's justice Minister Franco Frattini has drawn up a plan to strengthen anti-terror measures in the EU.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7080298.stm

As soon as this is ratified, and no doubt it will be (with maybe some minor adjustments to satisfy civil liberties groups, who will then mysteriously appear satisfied), it will no longer be enough to merely remove your smelly runners going through Dublin airport.

Here's a sample of what they will require:
quote:
"The plan also focuses on air passenger data, requiring EU states to collect 19 pieces of personal information about people flying to or from member states.

The information would include a phone number, e-mail address and payment details, and would be kept on file for 13 years. "

Just think about that. Your email address. To fight terror.

The BBC is already onside, judging by this inane comment:
"But the EU wants to reconnect with its often suspicious and hostile citizens by doing something that most people regard as worthwhile, says the BBC's Mark Mardell in Brussels. "

Also mooted is a plan to ensure that 'Setting up web sites that encourage violence or explain how to make bombs would become a criminal offence.'

Encourage violence? Ah yes, that could be then easily taken under the umbrella of 'hate crimes' legislation and used to silence, well, those who engage in hateful thoughts of course.

Eventually the full, astounding realisation of what the EU is really for will dawn on all. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

The EU is no guardian of our liberties or rights and doesn't deserve to be trusted.

Encourage violence? Ah yes, that could be then easily taken under the umbrella of 'hate crimes' legislation and used to silence, well, those who engage in hateful thoughts of course

Thought crimes more like!