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    Goodbye and good riddance to An Post?

    State monopolies on postal services for letters under 50 grammes are to be done away with by 2009. An Post will never survive in a competitive environment. Business has been held back in this country for years by this state company. They destroyed SDS rather than sell it on to DHL.

    http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0711/post.html?rss
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    Good riddance.
    Sent an urgent letter recently, 2 days later I got... the letter I had sent through my door.
    Asked the postman about it and he said it came back to me because I put a return address on the back...
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    Re: Goodbye and good riddance to An Post?

    Quote Originally Posted by HanleyS
    State monopolies on postal services for letters under 50 grammes are to be done away with by 2009. An Post will never survive in a competitive environment. Business has been held back in this country for years by this state company. They destroyed SDS rather than sell it on to DHL.

    http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0711/post.html?rss
    Anyone know how the Irish MEPs voted on this?

    Given that FF/FG TDs issue a "Rural Post Services Under Threat" press release every 4-6 weeks, it would interesting to know their collective position on market liberalisation.
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    Mmmmmmm me gets lotsa of "legimate" bumf in the door

    Phone bills
    Bank Statements
    Stock Annual reports
    Utility bills

    At work I get worse stuff.

    Bar a few cute things like invites , postcards & cards I really don't need or want post.

    Could we have a stamp levy of say €1 for printed matter ? Same as plastic bag levy.

    All the other stuff can be emailed (and emails are made of 100% reycled electrons ).

    Think how much waste overall goes into printed post: production facilities, paper, fuel for distribution ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defeated Romanticist
    Good riddance.
    Sent an urgent letter recently, 2 days later I got... the letter I had sent through my door.
    Asked the postman about it and he said it came back to me because I put a return address on the back...
    simpletons.
    The service is so bad that even though Bord Gais pays a special rate to get next day delivery, they are lucky to have any bills delivered next day, and many take more than a week. At one stage thousands of people's bills in chunks of the country (north Dublin in particular) just disappeared and never showed up. BG checked and found that yes, they had definitely posted all the bills. But they simply disappeared, never showing up ever.

    Unbelievable. I once tested the postal deliveries as I kept getting invites to things that arrived weeks late. I posted two letters to myself in the GPO; one for next day delivery, one for ordinary delivery. The 'next day' delivery took three days to come. The ordinary delivery one arrived 8 days after postage.

    An Post is a disgrace.

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    Before the cutbacks in An Post to prepare it for privatisation there were two daily deliveries (in cities and large towns anyway), mail delivery on Saturday and a social service whereby the local postman /postwoman kept an eye on elderly, vulnerable people in the community. In the days when telecommunications and post were all under the umbrella of the Department of Posts and Telegraphs there you could use directory enquiries for free. The privatisation philistines would like to paint a picture where all progress was done since the splitting up the department. Most of it happened before Eircom was "floated" (sunk would be a better word for it).

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    I`ve no comment to make good, bad or indifferent to make about An Post. The fact is I don`t have enough experience of the postal service of other countries to be able to compare and I don`t use An Post often enough to be able to make a proper judgement.

    One thing that shouldn`t be forgotten about is the social dimension involved in the postman calling around to some single, particularly elderly people. The postman is the only human contact that many, particularly elderly, people have in their day. it`ll be a sorry day for them if that goes.

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    Re: Goodbye and good riddance to An Post?

    Quote Originally Posted by HanleyS
    State monopolies on postal services for letters under 50 grammes are to be done away with by 2009. An Post will never survive in a competitive environment. Business has been held back in this country for years by this state company. They destroyed SDS rather than sell it on to DHL.

    http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/0711/post.html?rss
    Hmm 'destroyed SDS '. I remember a few years ago an Post management curiously wanted to close SDS and the unions were protesting about this at the time. I say curiously because SDS had the cheapest price of parcel delivery in the country....

    In a case of price arbitrage MNC parcel delivery companies (the ones with the expensive glossy adds - required of course...) were sending their parcels up to the an Post SDS depot in Dublin and charging their customers a higher price!

    Why would An Post management do this instead of shouting about their lower prices from the rooftops?
    Short answer is an ideologically inspired, top-down agenda from government and managment, to unnecessarily introduce 'competition'. With added higher prices to the consumer in a de-regulated environment you understand.

    It's the old story of cut-backs and the running-down of an efficient public non-profit system prior to the selling it off for a song or letting it 'compete'

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    An Post needs more cutbacks.
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    Re: Goodbye and good riddance to An Post?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pax
    Hmm 'destroyed SDS '. I remember a few years ago an Post management curiously wanted to close SDS and the unions were protesting about this at the time. I say curiously because SDS had the cheapest price of parcel delivery in the country....
    That was long after DHL made the offer to buy the company and by that time DHL wouldn't have taken it fo free.
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