EU Orwellian distortion of its own founding principles

[Seanie Lemass]

Once again with the internet legislation, the EU is imposing measures on hundreds of millions of citizens of allegedly sovereign states without any of them having a say so.

Not only is this what it appears to be - imperial diktat - it also makes a nonsense of the EU's own claim to uphold the principle of subsidiarity. As defined thus (from Wikipedia):


Subsidiarity is an organizing principle that matters ought to be handled by the smallest, lowest or least centralized competent authority. The Oxford English Dictionary defines subsidiarity as the idea that a central authority should have a subsidiary function, performing only those tasks which cannot be performed effectively at a more immediate or local level.


Subsidiarity is one of the central concepts of Catholic social teaching which of course was the intellectual influence over many of the key German, French and Italian founders of the EU. Quite a good concept and a radical one when applied to mean that everything from the economy to governance ought to be based on local units subject to democratic control.

I wonder what they would make of the monster it has become that imposes laws related to everything from the internet to bananas to fishing rights in a country's own waters and which is now proposing to take control of member states budgets!

[Cassandra Syndrome]

Fanatical Eurotrons spitting venom at OP for daring to question our fascist overlords ...............3.................2................ .

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Yawn................your a few years late. These "woe is me" efforts are over done completely.
Go for a walk, paint the kitchen, something useful in other words.

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Fanatical Eurotrons spitting venom at OP for daring to question our fascist overlords ...............3.................2................ .

Mystic meg?
Is that you?

[Tawdy]

Fanatical Eurotrons spitting venom at OP for daring to question our fascist overlords ...............3.................2................ .

Don`t you really mean that you side with the principle involved. Don`t you dare speak your mind. Don`t you dare hold a view contrary to mine. If you hold a different view you are a fanatic. Your view prevails only.

You need to take off the blinkers. As does the OP

[meriwether]

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There's something so tragic in the predictibility of this post.

[Boggle]

Get used to it as I don't see anything changing. It's such a pity because we could have made europe into something great by examining the flaws of the American system and designing our system in a manner which addressed those flaws - a bit like Ganley has been saying since Lisbon.

As it is though, this is not a union that I want any part of.

[Cassandra Syndrome]

Yawn................your a few years late. These "woe is me" efforts are over done completely.
Go for a walk, paint the kitchen, something useful in other words.

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Yes indeed, go for a walk down to the bank and lodge in a CAP

[Con Gallagher]

What has the subject of this thread to do with say Shooting an Elephant or Coming up for Air?

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There's something so tragic in the predictibility of this post.

Would'nt the world be so much better if we all just agreed with you all the time?