Is this a cynical ploy to start a premature discussion on Euro-federalism with a view to poisoning people's attitude to Europe generally. I don't buy it. He still doesn't have my vote either.
Is this a cynical ploy to start a premature discussion on Euro-federalism with a view to poisoning people's attitude to Europe generally. I don't buy it. He still doesn't have my vote either.
That was always his position as I understood it and it is a reasonable one. A united democratic Europe would be an improvement on the current EU which is neither united nor democratic.
What it will show is that support for an actual USE is low everywhere.
From what I recall Ganley supported the forerunner to the Lisbon Treaty - the European Constitution which was rejected in French and Dutch referendums. Ganley felt that Lisbon was a poor substitute. It was Dick Roche and other pro-Lisbon campaigners who painted him as a kind of "Little Irelander" Eurosceptic.
I care about all sorts of crap.
Well spotted M 14.
Ganley could be trying to be too clever here.
He basically wants to avoid the "abominable no man" tag.
His strategy is to sustain the "No" vote but also to attract previous "Yes" voters on the basis that the "No" is actually a "Not until" vote
The Australians opposed to the Monarchy voted in favour of the monarchy on the basis that they opposed the alternative option.
Ganley is trying to do the same in reverse- trying to catch the "No" voters and the waverers on the basis of opposing the current model offered by any new treaty until a new model comes along via a new referendum.
Hopium is the ultimate commodity as Ireland is The World's No 1 Debtor
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No no no
It is indeed hard for the strong to be just to the weak, but acting justly always has its rewards.
He probably wants English as the common language of the new union. That would please his counterparts in the UK.
To be fair - yes, even to Dick Roche - the campaign material Libertas came out with painted that picture perfectly well all by itself. Libertas' campaigning wasn't really reflective of Ganley's position, though - a Yes/No referendum doesn't lend itself to nuanced campaigning.
I don't see the double-bluff thing, myself - his public statements before the Lisbon campaign were entirely consistent with this position.
It is, but then nobody is really campaigning for one. Despite the loud shrieks of those who believe that every EU Treaty is just a softly-softly attempt to bring a USE into being, no national politician has any real interest in a USE, for obvious reasons.That was always his position as I understood it and it is a reasonable one. A united democratic Europe would be an improvement on the current EU which is neither united nor democratic.
What it will show is that support for an actual USE is low everywhere.
Never let the best be the enemy of the good.