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    Should Ireland Leave the European Union?

    Recently I have become very euro-sceptic when I realised the decline in Irish national soverignity on important economic and political issues. Is it time for Ireland to leave the EU. I will admit that there are pros and cons to such a drastic move. The negative factor would be leaving the Euro and the huge transition costs that this would involve in going back to the punt. However, there are plus points to be made if Ireland was to leave the European Union.

    - Ireland would be able to decide its own taxation policy that would be completely independent of the socialist beaureacrats in Brussels.
    - Ireland would be able to deceide how many immigrants would be allowed to enter Ireland each year. We would be able to abolish the open door policy that exists at the moment towards eastern european Immigrants. I personally think that immigration should be capped at between 35,000-40,000 immigrants each year.
    - We would still be able to keep abortion ilegal in Ireland and not have liberal ideologues in the European Court of Justice, forcing the government to liberalise our abortion laws.
    - We would be able to take a tougher stance on trade unions as at the moment EU directives prevent the government taking a tough stance on trade unions.
    - No more unnecessary business regulation from Brussels, already Brussels imposes unnecssary red tape on Irish businesses.
    - We would be able to decide our own environmental policies and not be dictated to by left wing ideologues.
    - Ireland would be able to align itself more politically and economically with the USA, China and the emerging tiger economies in the far east. Lets face reality in Western Europe Ireland is the most americanised economy.

    All in all such a move woule encourage Ireland to become more economically liberal and Ireland would be able to draft immigration laws that would p[revent Ireland from becoming a haven for hate-mongering preachers that we see in the UK and France on a regular occurance.

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    this even more stupid than the threads that say enda kenny could be taoiseach. go spout this UKIP trash somewhere else

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    No. No it shouldn't it.

    Not least because of some of the reasons you have outlined above. What an awful little country you envisage.
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    Our union with the other nations in 1973 probably wasn't in the spirit of The Brotherhood of Man or anything like that but generally I feel it's an ideal that we should pursue.

    Taxation: we control our own - Europe does nothing only moan at us.

    Wo! I just realised this thread was way over my head!! I'm knackered I'm off to bed. Good night and good luck

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    Keep this sort of nonsense for the pub.
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    Ok someone drinks from the neo-con cup anyway. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and to prevent libertarian economists from gaining sway i think is the best reason to stay in.
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    Although we still have a parliament, law courts and civil servants, they are little more than agents of the EU implementing European law, we just get to pay for them. Implementing common standards via national institutions means our countries are being taken over on the sly.

    The constitution fiasco showed the real views of European people to the whole experiment.
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    if we leave will we have to give back all the money we took. it seems only fair after all

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    Quote Originally Posted by daithimac
    if we leave will we have to give back all the money we took. it seems only fair after all
    I think its already been calculated that Europe has had way more of Ireland in terms of marine pillage than Ireland has had of Europe in structural funds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daithimac
    if we leave will we have to give back all the money we took. it seems only fair after all
    Plus none of our MEP will be tanned anymore from staying in europe,apart from mary lou, she looks a little pale, she needs more sunshine,we should stay in europe so irish MEP can get a good tan, and not look like weird sick people the way a lot of women look with that fake tan nonsense, it freaks ya out. you look at them, they are all mandarin looking, then they turn their head, and there is an actual cut off line, to show their natural body colour, and it makes ya shiver, then they start talking and my god, you wish, will ya go to feckin europe and get a proper tan, and thats the real reason we joined europe! so i say more MEP and less of this leave europe nonsense, do you want us to be stuck with these bloody freaky lookin women forever?????
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