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    Sarko imitates Germany, throws Roma out of France

    In case nobody knows what I meant by "imitates Germany", that country has been shipping Roma to Kosovo even if they didn't come from there. Sound like something from the past? Talk about nouveau-Vichy. Remember Niemöller's words.

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    French President Nicolas Sarkozy on Wednesday (28 July) announced his government is to order police to round up allegedly illegal migrants of Roma ethnicity for expulsion from French territory and destroy their encampments. …

    The French Human Rights League accused the president of racism, saying in a statement: "The president of the republic has stigmatised Roma and ‘travelling people' in a racist way, by creating an unacceptable amalgamation of a few individuals with entire communities, and announcing plans for ethnically targeted evictions of illegal settlements."…
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    This is necessary in this country too. Remember the Rosta family pretending they lived on a rubbish-tip in Romania and after they went home it emerged they were in fact wealthy landowners? Vagrancy must be extirpated from this land through the Gardai forcing vagrants of all ethnicities to abandon their imposition of nuisance upon the Irish public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    This is necessary in this country too. Remember the Rosta family pretending they lived on a rubbish-tip in Romania and after they went home it emerged they were in fact wealthy landowners? Vagrancy must be extirpated from this land through the Gardai forcing vagrants of all ethnicities to abandon their imposition of nuisance upon the Irish public.
    Vagrancy is one thing; racism is another. And since you're blowing up the vagrancy problem, you're a friend of the EU, so please stop pretending that you are not.
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    Political correctness in all its apalling guises is rapidly destorying our society's ability to protect itself. It abhors common sense, and is an enemy of the truth. It screeches 'racism' at every turn and it's continued and growing influence on public policy is ruinous.

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    As for the Roma, I suggest a ride on Rome's underground to experience the enrichment they bring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Parlon View Post
    Political correctness in all its apalling guises is rapidly destorying our society's ability to protect itself. It abhors common sense, and is an enemy of the truth. It screeches 'racism' at every turn and it's continued and growing influence on public policy is ruinous.

    My 2c.

    As for the Roma, I suggest a ride on Rome's underground to experience the enrichment they bring.
    Now you have to explain Sarko's actions. Europe's been here before, you know. This matter has nothing to do with PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al. View Post
    Now you have to explain Sarko's actions. Europe's been here before, you know. This matter has nothing to do with PC.
    If the "matter" is Sarkozy's rational and sensible approach to dealing with illegal entrants to the state who compound their transgression through criminality then no, it has nothing to do with PC. My comment was directed at the accusation of racism that came with it in the piece you included.

    Even the slowest mind knows it is wrong to act against a group of people because of their race. Sarkozy isn't doing that. He's responding to the problems these people cause. That they share a common ethnicity or "race" is entirley incidental.

    It is by their actions that they are being targeted. This stupid acusation of racism is utterly without foundation. It is the press who have applied the label of 'roma'. It is not racist, it is a sober response to a public order problem. It is as simple as that.

    The accusation then, is the fruit of PC which dulls the state's ability to act to protect it's citizens.

    If your "here before" comment means to allude to the Nazi murder campaign against the roma, then I can only suggest you take some time to reflect on the realities of that period of history and then compare it again to what Sarkozy is doing.

    The suggestion that today's news is a step in the direction of those events is, at best, a profound misjudgement.

    If you weren't alluding to mass murder of Roma, then I have misunderstood you and perhaps you can clarify. If you think Sarkozy's actions are racist, then please tell us how.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/30/wo.../30france.html

    Contains a little more background and is ah, less shrill.
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    A political leader who does what's right for his country. Sigh if only we had that here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Parlon View Post
    If the "matter" is Sarkozy's rational and sensible approach to dealing with illegal entrants to the state who compound their transgression through criminality then no, it has nothing to do with PC. My comment was directed at the accusation of racism that came with it in the piece you included.

    Even the slowest mind knows it is wrong to act against a group of people because of their race. Sarkozy isn't doing that. He's responding to the problems these people cause. That they share a common ethnicity or "race" is entirley incidental.

    It is by their actions that they are being targeted. This stupid acusation of racism is utterly without foundation. It is the press who have applied the label of 'roma'. It is not racist, it is a sober response to a public order problem. It is as simple as that.

    The accusation then, is the fruit of PC which dulls the state's ability to act to protect it's citizens.

    If your "here before" comment means to allude to the Nazi murder campaign against the roma, then I can only suggest you take some time to reflect on the realities of that period of history and then compare it again to what Sarkozy is doing.

    The suggestion that today's news is a step in the direction of those events is, at best, a profound misjudgement.

    If you weren't alluding to mass murder of Roma, then I have misunderstood you and perhaps you can clarify. If you think Sarkozy's actions are racist, then please tell us how.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/30/wo.../30france.html

    Contains a little more background and is ah, less shrill.
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    BTW: Al. specialises in Godwinisms. Get the Germans, eh, Al.? At all costs, eh, Al.?

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    Well done Sarko!
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    Political correctness in all its apalling guises is rapidly destorying our society's ability to protect itself. It abhors common sense, and is an enemy of the truth. It screeches 'racism' at every turn and it's continued and growing influence on public policy is ruinous.

    My 2c.

    As for the Roma, I suggest a ride on Rome's underground to experience the enrichment they bring.
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