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    I wouldn't object if they paid millions to suppress hip-hop dance. The noise annoys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panopticon View Post
    OP, have you stopped beating your wife?

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    @Sailor FF are imo without cultural awareness, that is indicated in their continuous breach of habitat directives, their initial dumping of the heritage portfolio, the NMA 2004 and their mindless blasphemy amendment. Cheap and tawdry are the only words to describe their blatancy.

    which is a narrow and naive display of plastic paddy arrogance that cannot afford the
    bills.
    : [B]http://www.ncfa.ie/index.php/blog/co...udget-2010//B]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine Murray View Post
    @Sailor FF are imo without cultural awareness, that is indicated in their continuous breach of habitat directives, their initial dumping of the heritage portfolio, the NMA 2004 and their mindless blasphemy amendment. Cheap and tawdry are the only words to describe their blatancy.

    which is a narrow and naive display of plastic paddy arrogance that cannot afford the
    bills. : [B]]National Campaign for the Arts - Blog - Detailed breakdown of Arts funding in Budget 2010

    Fianna Fáil's idea of Irish culture is taking junkets abroad and handing bowls of shamrock to Heads of State.

    Laughable! Cringeworthy! FFS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiding behind a poster View Post
    Wow, Telegraph plants Open Europe story in order to attack EU.

    Not sure how I'll get over the shock of this.
    I believe this is argumentum ad hominem in its purest form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine Murray View Post
    @Sailor FF are imo without cultural awareness, that is indicated in their continuous breach of habitat directives, their initial dumping of the heritage portfolio, the NMA 2004 and their mindless blasphemy amendment. Cheap and tawdry are the only words to describe their blatancy.

    which is a narrow and naive display of plastic paddy arrogance that cannot afford the
    bills.
    : [B]]National Campaign for the Arts - Blog - Detailed breakdown of Arts funding in Budget 2010
    On the Tara issue there was a series of inaccurate posts in which the posters demonstrated that either they did not know anything about the subject or were deliberately posting inaccurate information.
    On IWC, the main contributor was Dot who, despite repeated challenges to do so, failed to come up with an alternative, workable funding model.
    If you disagree with me on either issue, why not re-activate the threads?

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    I don't understand. What's wrong with investing in a culture program? To be honest, I'm starting to think that the Daily Mail and Daily Telegraph are a little eurosceptic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    On the Tara issue there was a series of inaccurate posts in which the posters demonstrated that either they did not know anything about the subject or were deliberately posting inaccurate information.
    On IWC, the main contributor was Dot who, despite repeated challenges to do so, failed to come up with an alternative, workable funding model.
    If you disagree with me on either issue, why not re-activate the threads?
    Tara was the result of inept planning, bad banks and cronyism. You can trace
    the planning decisions from early 2000 when we started getting fined for
    breaches of European directive on planning. The fact that FF bury their dirt
    is only indicative of how craven the media is. A case in Point , the strategic
    infrastructure bill transposes 'elements' of Aarhus into irish law, which is what
    FF do (aided by 'My hands are tied' john gormley afaic), they blatantly take
    juicy bits out of EU law to suit an agenda which makes a few cronies rich
    whilst consistently eroding the rights of small communities to have a say
    in their heritage. Now you can look at Martin Kay (Limerick on the PPP
    processes, or indeed the Tara Campaign where 12 people were criminalised
    by that particular stitch-up, or you can look at Sile de Valera's messing in
    Wicklow- I don't really care)

    Re The IWC/WWC , removing all funding from cultural and resource centres
    is an act of utter vandalism in the cultural life of this country, that was
    a Martin Cullen Initiative, but FF have been moving the deck-chairs around
    13 years and Cullen was responsible for the NMA 2004, which puts him lower
    than an ant to me.

    Bertie Ahern dropped the heritage portfolio, moved the Arts portfolio along
    with sports and then handed the remit to O Donoghue who penned the utterly
    ridiculous Arts Act 2003, which gave government too much control in
    Arts Development. I have argued before that this makes the current Govt
    akin to the De Valera government in terms of cultural naivety and I
    believe that this is demonstrable in such idiotic bills emmissions as the
    Blasphemy amendment and Cullen's crony appointments to the Arts Council.

    The wreckage that is Tara is down to FF and in small part to John
    Gormley who just jumped into Dick Roche's seat and continued his policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine Murray View Post
    Tara was the result of inept planning, bad banks and cronyism. You can trace
    the planning decisions from early 2000 when we started getting fined for
    breaches of European directive on planning. The fact that FF bury their dirt
    is only indicative of how craven the media is. A case in Point , the strategic
    infrastructure bill transposes 'elements' of Aarhus into irish law, which is what
    FF do (aided by 'My hands are tied' john gormley afaic), they blatantly take
    juicy bits out of EU law to suit an agenda which makes a few cronies rich
    whilst consistently eroding the rights of small communities to have a say
    in their heritage. Now you can look at Martin Kay (Limerick on the PPP
    processes, or indeed the Tara Campaign where 12 people were criminalised
    by that particular stitch-up, or you can look at Sile de Valera's messing in
    Wicklow- I don't really care)

    Re The IWC/WWC , removing all funding from cultural and resource centres
    is an act of utter vandalism in the cultural life of this country, that was
    a Martin Cullen Initiative, but FF have been moving the deck-chairs around
    13 years and Cullen was responsible for the NMA 2004, which puts him lower
    than an ant to me.

    Bertie Ahern dropped the heritage portfolio, moved the Arts portfolio along
    with sports and then handed the remit to O Donoghue who penned the utterly
    ridiculous Arts Act 2003, which gave government too much control in
    Arts Development. I have argued before that this makes the current Govt
    akin to the De Valera government in terms of cultural naivety and I
    believe that this is demonstrable in such idiotic bills emmissions as the
    Blasphemy amendment and Cullen's crony appointments to the Arts Council.

    The wreckage that is Tara is down to FF and in small part to John
    Gormley who just jumped into Dick Roche's seat and continued his policies.
    Resurrect the threads and I will happily debate both topics with you - but don't go off on a rant, we had enough of that from your pal Dot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Resurrect the threads and I will happily debate both topics with you - but don't go off on a rant, we had enough of that from your pal Dot.
    You go and do it. I am of the opinion that FF have been in power a generation and that it is
    time for them to go, they are culturally naive (or worse manipulators of the highest order)-
    it's time for different ministers and more responsible individuals to hold portfolios (jayzhus
    I am considering voting FG for the first time EVER)

    The arts council also recommended Bertie Ahern for a tax exemption.

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