Anarchist gunned down by Greek Police

[Clanrickard]

Greece is in the middle of a civil war...

What do you mean by terrorist? You mean he was fighting for his class?

Anyway he was supposed to have been shot while attempting to steal a car...The claim that he fired first is news to me.

Thanks for reminding me just how stupid. out of touch and dinosaur like the far left really is. If Greece is to emerge it must annihilate the far left by any means necessary as it has clearly become and enemy of the state and the Greek nation.

[Still Sceptical]

You are offended at this but shooting dead an unarmed garda in his car in Limerick is okay?

I think he's a little more than "offended".

..the shooting of a guard is not ok, but the shooting of an anarchist is..???

[Sync]

I think he's a little more than "offended".

..the shooting of a guard is not ok, but the shooting of an anarchist is..???

The shooting of an armed anarchist who is shooting at police while in commission of a crime is perfectly fine yes. There's no way anyone can tell for sure exactly what happened until the investigation is completed. At this point only an idiot could just assume this was a "murder" and that the police were at fault though.

[loaf]

Thanks for reminding me just how stupid. out of touch and dinosaur like the far left really is. If Greece is to emerge it must annihilate the far left by any means necessary as it has clearly become and enemy of the state and the Greek nation.

What is wrong, per se, with being an enemy of the state?

What if the state deserves to be opposed?

Does the state have any a priori claim to be respected?

Into what do you expect Greece to 'emerge' once this annihilation has taken place?

Sorry to respond with questions, but I am genuinely interested in your opinions on these matters.

[Clanrickard]

What if the state deserves to be opposed?

Does the state have any a priori claim to be respected?

Into what do you expect Greece to 'emerge' once this annihilation has taken place?

Sorry to respond with questions, but I am genuinely interested in your opinions on these matters.

If people don't like the government they can vote the government out. The Greeks have chosen the same parties time and time and time again. What is more it is the same clans running the show. The present PM had a father and grandfather who were PMs.

The government of course is democratically elected so it is deserving of respect as it is the the embodiment of Vox Populi. If the government transgresses then they can seek recourse through the courts.

Those who use violence against the state and criminals and outside the law. If they use violence then the sttae has a duty to resist the violence is a robust manner.

[Still Sceptical]

I never like to hear of anyone of any persuasion killed but terrorists deserve what is coming to them. Anarchists are like cockroaches: squash them whenever and wherever you can for the betterment of society.

So anyone termed a "terrorist" deserves what exactly...? Anything less than equal human rights?
Neither of us are in a position to confirm whether he was a "terrorist" or not. There have been many cases, like the Birmingham 6 (or the majority of Guantanamo Bay cases), where the state has incorrectly branded and punished innocent people (of the particular crimes presented by the state).

Its quite sad that you are so insecure in yourself that you feel the need to "squash" those whose views you do not agree with.

Thanks for reminding me just how stupid. out of touch and dinosaur like the far left really is. If Greece is to emerge it must annihilate the far left by any means necessary as it has clearly become and enemy of the state and the Greek nation.

Stupid? Out of touch? Dinosaur? You don't seem to read your own posts and apply the same critical level of judgement...

"The State" in Greece has not shown itself to well represent the Greek people. What kind of support does it have now, compared with previously? Ordinary people are furious that their nation has been so badly wrecked by those running their country.

Of course the anarchists and the state machinery are rivals, they are ideologically polar opposites. Which one appears to be an enemy of the Greek nation, thats very much open to debate and perspective, as is the question of which has has the greater interest in the happiness and wellbeing of the nation.

[Cassandra Syndrome]

I imagine some posters here would love for the US to invade Greece and murder lots of people. Iceland too I would imagine. The more blood the better.

[Still Sceptical]

The shooting of an armed anarchist who is shooting at police while in commission of a crime is perfectly fine yes. There's no way anyone can tell for sure exactly what happened until the investigation is completed. At this point only an idiot could just assume this was a "murder" and that the police were at fault though.

Yes, we don't know what happened for sure!

So it doesn't seem right that you claim as fact, a sequence of events which have not yet been confirmed. (confirmed as opposed to what the state purports to be fact.)

And I did not refer to the word "murder".

[Clanrickard]

So anyone termed a "terrorist" deserves what exactly...? Anything less than equal human rights?

Anarchists have a well earned reputation for using violence. The police alledge this guy shot first. You hurl stones at the police, carry fire arms or throw fire bombs expect stiff reliation from any self respecting police force and when you get it you deserve it.

There have been many cases, like the Birmingham 6 (or the majority of Guantanamo Bay cases), where the state has incorrectly branded and punished innocent people (of the particular crimes presented by the state).

This guy has previous. Don't try to dredge up up emotive topics to deflect from the violent nature of anarchism.

Its quite sad that you are so insecure in yourself that you feel the need to "squash" those whose views you do not agree with.

Anarchists are violent scum bags so yes I want to see them squashed.

"The State" in Greece has not shown itself to well represent the Greek people. What kind of support does it have now, compared with previously? Ordinary people are furious that their nation has been so badly wrecked by those running their country.
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"Ordinary" Greeks defrauded the taxes for years. They got non-jobs for their family members at the states They voted for the same failed politicians and parties time after time. Actions have consequences. Hopefully the next time they go to the polls the Greek people will think a bit more carefully. Democracy carries with it responsibility as well as rights.

[Clanrickard]

I imagine some posters here would love for the US to invade Greece and murder lots of people. Iceland too I would imagine. The more blood the better.

Typical stupid comment. Stick to your goofy economic theories.