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About LinkBacksWhich would of course beg the question: How did those same judges deliver the Crotty and McKenna judgements in the first place?Originally Posted by YoungLiberal
Which would of course beg the question: How did those same judges deliver the Crotty and McKenna judgements in the first place?
"Elite - a small superior group; esp one that has a power out of proportion to its size." (Oxford English Dictionary)
The majority cannot therefore be the elite.
The people voted not to permit Oireachtas ratification of Lisbon, so it wasn't ratified. Ergo, their vote was heeded. Comprendez?
"Elite - a small superior group; esp one that has a power out of proportion to its size." (Oxford English Dictionary)
The majority cannot therefore be the elite.
No it wasn't because the next year we voted on exactly the same Treaty.
I mean seriously is this like - that difficult to understand?
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So why re-run it?
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Well, it would, if you were a person of reasonable intelligence.Which would of course beg the question: How did those same judges deliver the Crotty and McKenna judgements in the first place?
Because they were confronted with arguments they couldn't simply re-vote on until the 'right' argument was placed before them.Which would of course beg the question: How did those same judges deliver the Crotty and McKenna judgements in the first place?
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No, its very straightforward, actually. Firstly, economic circumstances changed fairly dramatically. Secondly, clarifications were made that showed that what some people had thought/claimed was in the Treaty, wasn't. Thirdly, opinion polls showed a substantial change in voter opinion on the subject of ratification.No it wasn't because the next year we voted on exactly the same Treaty.
I mean seriously is this like - that difficult to understand?
Now if all those reasons were irrelevant, then the people would have voted No again, and Lisbon STILL wouldn't have been ratified by the Oireachtas. But they changed their mind, and thus it was. What's your problem with that? Why were you so determined that, once the people spoke once, their opinion should no longer matter?
"Elite - a small superior group; esp one that has a power out of proportion to its size." (Oxford English Dictionary)
The majority cannot therefore be the elite.
Opinion polls want a change of government, where's the election?
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Because there was fairly solid evidence that people's opinions had changed - and also because our elected representatives believed it to be in the country's best interest. If we still disagreed, we could always vote No again - but we didn't.
"Elite - a small superior group; esp one that has a power out of proportion to its size." (Oxford English Dictionary)
The majority cannot therefore be the elite.
But they were the Supreme Court - if they'd wanted to just chuck Crotty and McKenna's arguments out, no-one could have stopped them.
"Elite - a small superior group; esp one that has a power out of proportion to its size." (Oxford English Dictionary)
The majority cannot therefore be the elite.
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