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    Recent GM performance:

    Food Security and Global Warming; Monsanto versus Organic

    Yet, absent from the media hype were the many technical and social problems with Monsanto's corn.

    A little over a year ago, the Australian Centre for Plant Functional Genomics held a conference specific to drought and drought-tolerant crops. As a follow up, the Australian government's Grains Research and Development Corporation published a piece detailing the research shared and lessons learned from the conference. One topic addressed was the potential of GM drought-tolerant varieties. In the analysis stated, "The most notable and problematic (effect) is the tendency of drought-tolerant GM lines to not perform as well under favourable conditions. This appears to be the case for CIMMYT's GM wheat and Monsanto's GM corn. The flaw is a profound one. It amounts to shifting the yield losses experienced in dry seasons onto the good years." In essence, farmers might get a small bump in yield during droughts, but will suffer yield losses when conditions are favorable. Considering that climate scientists continually point to increased erratic weather patterns as a symptom of global warming, this reality is clearly disastrous. Surely there must be better solutions that increase production under all weather conditions.

    Bt cotton has failed admits Monsanto
    Dinesh C. Sharma
    India Today, March 6 2010

    New Delhi - The ongoing debate on biotechnology crops in India took a new turn on Friday when American seed firm Monsanto disclosed that cotton pest--pink bollworm--has developed resistance to its much-touted Bt cotton variety in Gujarat.

    The company has reported to the regulator, the Genetic Engineering Approval Committee (GEAC), that pink bollworm has developed resistance to its genetically modified (GM) cotton variety, Bollgard I, in Amreli, Bhavnagar, Junagarh and Rajkot districts in Gujarat.

    This was detected by the company during field monitoring in the 2009 cotton season.

    The Bt cotton variety in question was developed using a gene--Cry1AC--derived from soil bacterium Bacillus thuringiensis. It was supposed to be resistant to pest attacks. But, of late, the pest has developed resistance to the gene...

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    Scientist finding many negative impacts of Roundup Ready GM crops

    Non-GMO Report [USA], 8 January 2010:

    USDA doesn't want to publicize studies showing negative impacts

    Robert Kremer is a microbiologist with the US Department of Agriculture's Agricultural Research Service and an adjunct professor in the Division of Plant Sciences at the University of Missouri. He is co-author of one of five papers published in the October 2009 issue of The European Journal of Agronomy that found negative impacts of Roundup herbicide, which is used extensively with Roundup Ready genetically modified crops. Kremer has been studying the impacts of glyphosate, the primary ingredient in Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide, since 1997.

    The Organic & Non-GMO Report interviewed Mr. Kremer about his research and the reluctance of the USDA to publicize the findings of the five papers.

    Please give me an overview of your research
    RK: We started in 1997 wanting to see if this new system, Roundup Ready, would change the production of nematodes in soybean. We started looking at organisms in soybean roots and saw microorganisms colonizing the roots. We suspected that glyphosate was having an impact. There was a root fungi problem that seemed to be encouraging sudden death syndrome (SDS).
    We saw the increase of these fungi in the Roundup Ready (genetically modified) system, both soybeans and corn.

    What types of things are you seeing in the Roundup Ready system?
    RK: This system is altering the whole soil biology. We are seeing differences in bacteria in plant roots and changes in nutrient availability. Glyphosate is very systemic in the plant and is being released through the roots into the soil. Many studies show that glyphosate can have toxic effects on microorganisms and can stimulate them to germinate spores and colonize root systems. Other researchers are showing that glyphosate can immobilize manganese, an essential plant micronutrient.

    What are glyphosate’s impacts on beneficial soil bacteria?
    RK: The most obvious impact is on rhizobia, a bacterium that fixes nitrogen. It has been shown that glyphosate can be toxic to rhizobia. (Nitrogen fixing bacteria are important to soils because nitrogen is the most commonly deficient nutrient in many soils.)

    What about research showing increased incidence of Fusarium in Roundup Ready GM crops?
    RK: We’ve taken field surveys and seen an increase in Fusarium with the use of glyphosate. Some Roundup Ready varieties even without using glyphosate tend to be more susceptible to being impacted by Fusarium. It could be an unintended consequence of genetic manipulation that could make it more susceptible.

    Your paper also mentioned the potential of glyphosate to contaminate groundwater.
    RK: Yes, under certain circumstances. The big assumption for claims that glyphosate is benign is that it isn’t immediately absorbed by the soil. But research is showing that isn’t necessarily true; that it is still available in the soil.
    If soil is full of phosphorous, glyphosate could leach into ground water. For example, farmers may use manure from confined animal feeding operations as a fertilizer. The soil will then contain high amounts of phosphorus, which overwhelms the soil. Any glyphosate that hits the soil will be a potential contaminant. It can stay in the soil or it might run off into streams or waterways.

    What about glyphosate resistant weeds?
    RK: We have eight different species of glyphosate resistant weeds in Missouri. Some species of Johnson Grass are found in fields where Roundup is used year after year. It is a very aggressive weed.
    To solve the problem of weed resistance, genetic engineers are developing soybeans that tolerate Roundup and Dicamba, another herbicide. They are incorporating another gene resistant to another herbicide. When resistance happens again, will they then develop a plant resistant to five or six herbicides? It’s an illogical circle.

    With so much glyphosate being used, what types of long-term impacts do you think could occur?
    RK: We are already seeing glyphosate-resistant weeds. If we continue to use glyphosate in the same fields year after year, it’s a matter of time until microbial communities in the soil will shift to more detrimental species.
    The use of glyphosate stimulates detrimental pathogens in the growing season but they go back down after the growing season. Eventually, they may build up in the soil and not go back down.

    Are many researchers looking at the possibly negative impacts of glyphosate or Roundup Ready crops?
    RK: There are a handful of researchers. There is more research looking at the production of these crops.

    The papers published in the European Journal of Agronomy received no publicity in the United States. Why is that?
    RK: I was working with USDA-ARS to publish a news release about these studies. I’ve gone all the way to the administrators, but they are reluctant to put something out. Their thinking is that if farmers are using this (Roundup Ready) technology, USDA doesn’t want negative information being released about it. This is how it is. I think the news release is still sitting on someone’s desk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwithirony View Post
    WRT research, I suggest you actually read the articles I linked to.

    WRT health aspects, I suggest you read the article on GM potatoes linked to upthread.

    WRT food production, time & time again it has been demonstrated that distribution is the main problem. Check out the IAASTD report on this, & read (yes read!) this:

    Ending Africa's Hunger

    excerpt:

    The Green Revolution appeared successful because the global quantity of food produced increased dramatically. From 1970 to 1990 the amount of food available per person rose by 11 percent, and more than 150 million people were lifted from the ranks of the world's hungry. But most of that rise was driven by transformations inside China. Subtract China from the picture and the heyday of the Green Revolution saw global hunger increase by 11 percent. In South America, hunger grew by nearly 20 percent despite impressive gains in output driven, in part, by improved crop varieties. Those varieties required large landholdings in order to be economically efficient, which meant that the peasants working that land had to be kicked off. Those displaced peasants migrated to the hillsides and tropical forests, doubling the area of cultivated land--in other words, the increase in food came not only through technology but also simply by having food growing on a greater area.

    Beyond the massive displacement of peasants, the Green Revolution wrought other social damage--urban slums sprawled around cities to house displaced workers, pesticide use went up, groundwater levels fell and industrial agricultural practices began racking up significant environmental debt. Today, because of the Green Revolution's catastrophic economic and ecological consequences, even its strong advocates in India have recommended that up to 70 percent of farmers farm organically.
    Interesting article. This thread is about GM in the EU not Africa or India.

    You think the Green Revolution was not all it was cracked up to be. Given that from 1970 to 1990 the amount of food available per person rose by 11 percent in China, it might be worthwhile looking at what the Chinese did in that time.

    Also please remember that there is no future in subsistence farming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcdf View Post
    Interesting article. This thread is about GM in the EU not Africa or India.
    I was responding to Cabbage/Turnip, as I'm sure you must be aware.

    Quote Originally Posted by jcdf View Post
    You think the Green Revolution was not all it was cracked up to be. Given that from 1970 to 1990 the amount of food available per person rose by 11 percent in China, it might be worthwhile looking at what the Chinese did in that time.
    Agreed, I believe the authors are in agreement.

    Quote Originally Posted by jcdf View Post
    Also please remember that there is no future in subsistence farming.
    I don't think anybody is arguing that. Did you read all of the article? Well worth it. Also, you should probably check out the IAASTD's report published in April 2008 & available from this website.

    Remember, no money for MNCs in non-proprietary low-tech solutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwithirony View Post
    Recent GM performance:

    Food Security and Global Warming; Monsanto versus Organic

    Yet, absent from the media hype were the many technical and social problems with Monsanto's corn.

    A little over a year ago, the Australian Centre for Plant Functional Genomics held a conference specific to drought and drought-tolerant crops. As a follow up, the Australian government's Grains Research and Development Corporation published a piece detailing the research shared and lessons learned from the conference. One topic addressed was the potential of GM drought-tolerant varieties. In the analysis stated, "The most notable and problematic (effect) is the tendency of drought-tolerant GM lines to not perform as well under favourable conditions. This appears to be the case for CIMMYT's GM wheat and Monsanto's GM corn. The flaw is a profound one. It amounts to shifting the yield losses experienced in dry seasons onto the good years." In essence, farmers might get a small bump in yield during droughts, but will suffer yield losses when conditions are favorable. Considering that climate scientists continually point to increased erratic weather patterns as a symptom of global warming, this reality is clearly disastrous. Surely there must be better solutions that increase production under all weather conditions.

    Bt cotton has failed admits Monsanto
    Dinesh C. Sharma
    India Today, March 6 2010

    New Delhi - The ongoing debate on biotechnology crops in India took a new turn on Friday when American seed firm Monsanto disclosed that cotton pest--pink bollworm--has developed resistance to its much-touted Bt cotton variety in Gujarat.

    The company has reported to the regulator, the Genetic Engineering Approval Committee (GEAC), that pink bollworm has developed resistance to its genetically modified (GM) cotton variety, Bollgard I, in Amreli, Bhavnagar, Junagarh and Rajkot districts in Gujarat.

    This was detected by the company during field monitoring in the 2009 cotton season.

    The Bt cotton variety in question was developed using a gene--Cry1AC--derived from soil bacterium Bacillus thuringiensis. It was supposed to be resistant to pest attacks. But, of late, the pest has developed resistance to the gene...


    We could go back and forth with papers for and against GM... The examples you have given above are failures of a Gm seed to work efficentyley and this is fair enough but is its not a danger or hazard that is being claimed by some media... whats the difference bewteen this seed failing not during drought and a normal seed failing during drought.. Is it not good to have th ebaility to choice one for the conditions that are relevant at the time.

    I have given reasons environmentally, socially, biologically and economically (the price of manure due to demand) to why GM food can be benefical over organic foods, while you counter this arguemnt with no time given to the points i made. Why distrubte the food if it can be grown by others? Why not try to improve the environemt by reducing the level of nitrogen and pathogenic organisms in the environment? Many organisms found in manure are also antibiotic resistant due to the antibiotics being used on animals these also get into the environmet and at times have cause harm due to prevent antibiotics from working

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