EU Army

[He3]

Germany says it wants the EU to have an army. It calls Lisbon a start, not an end.

German foreign minister Guido Westerwelle has said Berlin supports the long term goal of creating a European army, which will bolster the EU's role as a global player.

Speaking on Saturday (6 February) at the Munich Security Conference, an annual gathering for high-level discussions on security and defence, Mr Westerwelle said the EU's new institutional rules, the Lisbon Treaty, are "not the end but, rather, the beginning for common security and defence policy."

"The long term goal is the establishment of a European army under full parliamentary control," he said, noting that the German government "wants to advance along this path."

EUobserver / Germany speaks out in favour of European army

While he spoke of this involving 'willing' countries his colleague in Defence is not pleased about the unanimity rule in NATO.

His remarks at the annual Munich Security Conference followed a call by Berlin’s defence minister Karl Theodor zu Guttenberg to end what he called Nato’s “absurd” practice of unanimous decision-making.

German minister calls for Lisbon treaty EU army - The Irish Times - Mon, Feb 08, 2010

See also - http://www.politics.ie/europe/38636-eu-warships.html

[ibis]

Well, that should excite Al, if nobody else.

[Cassandra Syndrome]

But Mr O' Dea told me that we have been guaranteed neutrality under Lisbon. Say it aint so Willie, say it aint so.....

Irish Neutrality is Fully Protected Under Lisbon - Minister O’Dea | Fianna Fáil

[The Field Marshal]

Guido Westerwelle is Germanys Foreign Minister.

Im posting this old German marching song composed by a relative of his.

Funnily enough its called "The Westerwald"

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[Oldira1]

Germany says it wants the EU to have an army. It calls Lisbon a start, not an end.



EUobserver / Germany speaks out in favour of European army

While he spoke of this involving 'willing' countries his colleague in Defence is not pleased about the unanimity rule in NATO.



German minister calls for Lisbon treaty EU army - The Irish Times - Mon, Feb 08, 2010

See also - http://www.politics.ie/europe/38636-eu-warships.html

Wow! Germans want a big army...now theres a surprise!

For Germany Lisbon is a start in the same way marching into Austria in 1938 was a start.

[charley]

But Mr O' Dea told me that we have been guaranteed neutrality under Lisbon. Say it aint so Willie, say it aint so.....

Irish Neutrality is Fully Protected Under Lisbon - Minister O’Dea | Fianna Fáil

willie said it, does that not say enough, willie,porkies, never!

[louis bernard]

Germany says it wants the EU to have an army. It calls Lisbon a start, not an end.

Excellent news, will get thousands of our young men off the dole. Of course they can always join the British army if there is any delay in setting up the EU Army.

[charley]

the wish to use irelands youth as cannon fodder in other countries wars is a war crime in itself

[Natural Poh-leece]

And? It's about time those EU states that don't have a fig leaf "neutrality" sham like we do, pool their resources and have an effective EU armed force for rapid deployment. It'll save money and prevent some of the catastrophic miscommunications that have happened in Afghanistan and other deployments.

Ireland won't and doesn't have to go along.

[louis bernard]

the wish to use irelands youth as cannon fodder in other countries wars is a war crime in itself

Being in a real army is preferable to rotting on the dole. The economy of this country is banjaxed , there will not be any jobs for young men for the distant foreseeable future.