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Thread: "I am not a woman at your disposal" Campaign gathers pace in Italy.

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    Would it have have been worse if Monica Lewinski had been promoted, instead of called "that woman"?

    I agree that the women of Italy are right to be angry with this horrible man, but I'd say that more, like women here, are worried about their jobs and keeping their homes and have plenty more to dislike about Berlusconi than his sad old Alpha Male antics.

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    Imagine if Clinton had made a nasty sexist remark about Maya Angelou instead of respecting her poetic struggle ? Perception and intellect are important in leadership. Lario and others were and are treated with appalling sexism that denigrates their familial, polititical and societal role : therein lies the difference , a consistency in behaviour Outrage at Berlusconi 'amnesty' Bill - The Irish Times - Fri, Nov 13, 2009

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    l think Clinton was more discreet and therefore perceived as service dedicated.
    Or perceived as afraid of Hillary finding out perhaps. Married men in general try to be discreet. Or dishonest as some may call it.

    He genuinely adores women and did not denigrate their role or position on the basis of appearance.
    I disagree that Clinton adored women. I think the record shows that he regarded them very much as being at his disposal. I do think it is fair to say that looks were not a consideration for him. Neither were brains.

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    D Harry , some of us feminists are mothers and thus quite aware of how society effects our daughters. l would say Lario is concerned too at the rot on show in her country Imagine if Clinton had made a nasty sexist remark about Maya Angelou instead of respecting her poetic struggle ? Perception and intellect are important in leadership. Lario and others were and are treated with appalling sexism that denigrates their familial, polititical and societal role : therein lies the difference , a consistency in behaviour Outrage at Berlusconi 'amnesty' Bill - The Irish Times - Fri, Nov 13, 2009

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    The Starr impeachment was perceived as distracting from the presidency, in this case Berlusconi's overt and nasty sexism is denigrating the office he holds. He doesn't own it .

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    I agree the Impeachment was a distraction. It is for voters alone to judge elected politicians when it comes to hiring and firing them. The voters knew what Clinton was like. It's not as if Monica Lewinsky was a one off. If they were happy to elect him then that should be that.

    But the same applies to Silvio Berlusconi. His behaviour is no surprise either. I'd forgive a lot for this kind of agenda.

    ROME, Nov 12 (Reuters) - Italy's cabinet approved on Thursday a decree to cut 3.6 billion euros from income and business taxes this year, allowing contributors to postpone payments until 2010, a government spokesman said.

    The tax cut, aimed at stimulating Italy's economy as it emerges from its worst post-war recession, will apply to income tax on individuals (Irpef), Paolo Bonaiuti, the spokesman for Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, said.

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    his ex-wife stated that he did not bother to attend his own children's birthdays after he scandalously endowed an 18 yr old with a hugely expensive necklace and promises of a political career. Thats not sexualising politics ? He demeaned her, his kids, wife and politics. Yep Tradcat , he's focussed on power and survival not policy. Lario is divorcing cos of "underage girls". Women have a role in ensuring that their daughters are not exposed to sexual harassments and brutalism and shouldn't remain silent on issues of concern be it political corruption or nasty sexism Imagine if Clinton had made a nasty sexist remark about Maya Angelou instead of respecting her poetic struggle ? Perception and intellect are important in leadership. Lario and others were and are treated with appalling sexism that denigrates their familial, polititical and societal role : therein lies the difference , a consistency in behaviour Outrage at Berlusconi 'amnesty' Bill - The Irish Times - Fri, Nov 13, 2009

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    Imagine if Clinton had made a nasty sexist remark about Maya Angelou instead of respecting her poetic struggle?
    He wouldn't. He knew the women to target and I don't think that is at all to his credit. Berlusconi appears to just be himself in all circumstances. It's more honest if no less acceptable.

    But if Bush behaved exactly like Clinton in his personal life I don't think you'd be giving him credit for not making a remark about Maya Angelou.

    Isn't that what we condemn about the Church? When it's one of their own they make excuses and forgive but when it's not one of their own the full force of morality applies.

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    can you contextualise the Bush theory in terms of consistency in behaviour Tradcat ? Nasty sexism and corrupt behaviour is great if it makes us wealthy seems to be the touchstone of ltalian tolerance in this case.

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    can you contextualise the Bush theory in terms of consistency in behaviour Tradcat ?
    It really is a simple question dot.

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