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    Fir Bolg Fir Bolg is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vega1447 View Post
    Why do you hate the EU so much?

    Before Ireland joined the then EEC we were....
    If we were shown in the early 1970's what the EEC would turn into then there is absolutely no way people would have voted in favour of it. The erosion of Soverignity has been drip drip over a long period of time so as not to spook an apathetic public.

    It's time now to call a stop to it and either try and change it from within and reverse the EU back into something resembling the EEC or leave it altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ted08 View Post
    I don't think there is an appetite for more Europe is many other countries, some poll or other had Ireland as being the most pro EU. We get our veto like every other EU27 country over such matters.
    Ah it a veto in theory - have we ever exercised it?

    Would we dare?

    Europa Conventus Delenda est
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fir Bolg View Post
    If we were shown in the early 1970's what the EEC would turn into then there is absolutely no way people would have voted in favour of it. The erosion of Soverignity has been drip drip over a long period of time so as not to spook an apathetic public.

    It's time now to call a stop to it and either try and change it from within and reverse the EU back into something resembling the EEC or leave it altogether.
    Fortunately or Unfortunately I am old enough to remember the 1st Referendum

    I was too young to vote

    - but I could see what way it was heading...

    But we were promised untold riches if we voted YES....

    And its true the Farmers were well looked after

    - and business got access to bigger markets

    + politicians did well out of it too

    I don't think the ordinary Man in the street got much at all....

    Europa Conventus Delenda est
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    I want to honestly ask the pro immigration people on here how much more immigration can we take ie where does it stop?? And why does it have to be Somalians, Pakistanis, Afghanis, Nigerians etc who literally offer us nothing but negatives? Why not Chinese or East Asians who actually would improve Europe?

    This is only going to end in extreme violence across half the continent. What about integration measures?? The state of places like France and England now due to racial tensions and demographics is unsustainable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorblade View Post
    And to think there are fools giving the Brits a hard time for democratically deciding their own future well with what Juncker and his cronies have in store for the rest of us they got out right on time i only hope we can do the same before we are completely finished as a sovereign nation.
    We won't, this island is ruin by corrupt cowards. Democracy is dead in this country, whats the point in even voting for corrupt FF/FG/Lab/SF when they all do the same and all our decisions are now enforced by the bought and paid for EU like Juncker??

    This country is finished.
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    Fir Bolg Fir Bolg is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post
    Fortunately or Unfortunately I am old enough to remember the 1st Referendum

    I was too young to vote

    - but I could see what way it was heading...

    But we were promised untold riches if we voted YES....

    And its true the Farmers were well looked after

    - and business got access to bigger markets

    + politicians did well out of it too

    I don't think the ordinary Man in the street got much at all....

    Europa Conventus Delenda est
    That has been the case for each and every treaty vote since we joined. Selling us a pack of lies with promises of endless jobs and wealth while slowly eroding our power to reverse its omnipresence in our lives.

    It is so bad now that Ireland's prosperity (in the minds of EU sycophants) is inextricably linked with the health of the EU.
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    Piss off Junker and stick the EU where the sun don't shine.
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    I know lets have a referendum, so that we can vote No once again and they can tell us to fu-ck off and keep voting until it's Yes.

    Ireland = banana republic with no leadership
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorblade View Post
    Maybe so but there are also those who are simply anti brexit and are lambasting the Brits and throwing their toys out of the pram because the UK made a democratic decision to leave the EU.
    Any lambasting I've been engaging in has been for two main reasons:

    1. The detrimental effects Brexit will have on Ireland, north and south.

    2. The contempt with which the London Govt. has treated its so called EU partners since the vote. They've been arrogant, presumptive, assumptive, reckless and totally obnoxious throughout.

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    If Brexit didn't pose such potentially dire consequences for Ireland I wouldn't give a flying f*** about Brexit. The Brits were a pain in the hole throughout their membership anyway.


    But as for Ireland following Blighty's lead...

    Half a million jobs are directly or indirectly reliant on MNCs here... (200K direct, 300K indirect)

    Leave the EU with the inevitable trade barriers that would create for those companies accessing the EU and there would be no reason in the world for them to stay here...

    If the EU implodes fair enough... we all go down together...

    But for Ireland to leave on our own... economic suicide with all of the societal repurcussions of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fir Bolg View Post
    Looks like a recipe for disaster and the total destruction of independent sovereign nations.

    When will someone call a halt to this madness.

    We need to seriously consider our position in the EU.
    Are you mad? Have you no concern at all for the poor Slovaks?

    They have less than the acceptable amount of fish in their fish fingers!
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