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    Makes the argument for Irexit with controlled immigration essential for Ireland going forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olli rehn View Post
    As usual you try to scaremonger with invented stuff.
    None of those people will get a German passport in the short run. Most of them will never get a German passport. A small fraction of those people will eventually get a German passport after only many years.
    Away with you and your facts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    So you don't think it makes a teeny weeny bit of sense to be able to protect your borders from millions of "new" Germans, no?
    National quota allocation.
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    That's almost as much money as you are willing to pay to have a bit of general household maintenance done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoutingIsLeadership View Post
    Protect one's borders. What does that even mean?

    And who are the millions of new Germans?
    Syrians, Afghans, Pakistani's Somalis and Turks who choose to arrive in Germany! Do you deliberately act thick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by olli rehn View Post
    As usual you try to scaremonger with invented stuff.
    None of those people will get a German passport in the short run. Most of them will never get a German passport. A small fraction of those people will eventually get a German passport after only many years.
    after many years? well it takes many years until after the last court of appeal when an applicant gets deported.
    Plenty of opportunity for intermarraige -- e.g. with the local Turkish ... or even gay population.
    ... and then their offspring who are born in Germany?

    Dem Krauts have their work cut out for themselves.


    And the matter of the courts... 750,000 people! I have heard figures of 1.million but let's take your figure... this is the figure for 2016. There is the backlog from 2015 and earlier... the figures for 2017 ++++
    those courts will be running 24/7/365 to keep up.

    But then why should they act in haste? The German Chancellor wanted these new immigrants, visitors -- for whatever reason -- low German fertility --- low labour participation rate -- whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olli rehn View Post
    As usual you try to scaremonger with invented stuff.
    None of those people will get a German passport in the short run. Most of them will never get a German passport. A small fraction of those people will eventually get a German passport after only many years.
    Are you high????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans Von Horn View Post
    The population of Germany has swelled to 82.2 million people with net immigration of 750,000 people last year. The Cost of supporting Asylum Seekers was 21.7 billion euros in 2016.

    https://apnews.com/3f5856db13844ed19...&utm_medium=AP

    The German open door immigration policy is influencing and moulding immigration policy within the EU since the Germans have so much influence over EU policy. Germany expects to spend 77 Billion on Asylum Sekers over the next four years. Germany Puts Migration-Related Costs at Over $86 Billion Over Next Four Years - WSJ

    The indication is that asylum related immigration will remain a burden for years on end.
    How many of them are 16 year olds looking to become Taoiseach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Danger View Post
    That's almost as much money as you are willing to pay to have a bit of general household maintenance done.
    Ouch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casablanca View Post
    Away with you and your facts!
    What about their kids?

    I'm a migrant.an economic one. Not that it confers greater credibility. But there needs to be a long term view when accepting folks into a state.

    Yet Germany barreled down a path over the past few years propelled by a chancellor with a less than straight forward biography when it comes to the nation state , social AGS cultural cohesion and , frankly, knowing right from wrong. ( as one East German commentator put it " i never got invited to Moscow but merkel did , why?"
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