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    Sister Mercedes Sister Mercedes is offline
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    The problem with the reformers in Italy is that their egos get in the way. Instead of coming together to form one or two parties, each one wants to be the leader so you have an incoherent multiplicity of smaller parties.
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    I left out FF, Iceland, Nazi's and some other favourite topics.
    If anyone has a original idea feel free to start a thread.
    Have'ne seen one in some time now.
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    Twin Towers, what's your take on all this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    I'll tell you what's impacting site viability.
    The 89+ similar threads on the fiscal treaty, the countless furriner bashing threads started by the idiot brigade, the obsession with Israel (one guy started 8 threads in 7 hours on the exact same subject), the relentless patrolling by SF/FG/FF hacks who stifle all debate. The ridiculous number of ill-informed self assured idiots who claim to know how to fix the all the worlds problems.
    And not least the tendency of many to take themselves way more seriously than anybody else does.
    I could go, should i?
    I've lots more.
    @drummed: then why do you stick around on p.ie if you fell that way, there are other forums you can register to use and contribute towards. Anyway, I think this exchange has dragged the thread off-topic. Best get back on topic . . .
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    Dame_Enda Dame_Enda is offline
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    It's all part and parcel of a Europe-wide revolt against the elites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    It's all part and parcel of a Europe-wide revolt against the elites.
    Elite my arse.. European politics are far more accessible to any citizen than anywhere else in the world.

    Look at the variety of independents elected in Ireland, the variety of parties in Greece, etc..

    This talk of Euro elites gets on my nuts big time.

    There is a growing wealth gap in Europe and the super-rich of Edwardian / Belle Epoque proportions is more of a concern.

    Post war European social democratic ideals have taken a kicking in the last 20 years.. we are now reaping the rewards of the increased liberalisation of our economies, time to stop the slide back to the 1930s.

    Via politics and political parties is the way to do this.. get in there and stop hurling from the ditch.*

    *Not directed specifically at yourself Edna, no idea of your level of participation in the democratic process..
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    Twin Towers, what's your take on all this?
    It's a beautiful day in May. Ain't you got nothing better to do down on the farm?
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    drummed drummed is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    It's all part and parcel of a Europe-wide revolt against the elites.

    And there we have it. An insightful informed comment to kick things off.
    Lets all take another trip on the delusion train.

    Yeah, lots to do, been doing stuff since 5.50am. You?

    We're all still awaiting your contribution re Italian politics.
    What's taking so long?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    And not least the tendency of many to take themselves way more seriously than anybody else does.
    Don't worry nobody is taking you seriously so you're safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    Don't worry nobody is taking you seriously so you're safe.


    Not exactly an issue for you is it?
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