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    Government expenditures are not free: Subsidized Green Jobs Destroy Jobs Elsewhere

    I thought this was quite interesting: Subsidized Green Jobs Destroy Jobs Elsewhere The Foundry

    The first week of every principles of economics class goes over the problem with free-lunch assumptions. The labor and material used to make windmills or solar panels or to install insulation cannot simultaneously be used to make refrigerators and automobiles. When government spends more money, it necessarily diverts labor, capital and materials from the private sector.

    Dr. Calzada simply calculated how many jobs, on average, would have been supported with these resources had they been left to the private market. The ASE critique doesn’t even recognize that the costs exist. Therefore, the ASE critique can hardly be used to undermine the credibility of the Spanish conclusion—subsidies for green technologies reduce overall employment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    I thought this was quite interesting: Subsidized Green Jobs Destroy Jobs Elsewhere The Foundry
    WingNut balderdash from The Heritage Foundation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    I thought this was quite interesting: Subsidized Green Jobs Destroy Jobs Elsewhere The Foundry

    It is an issue that resonates throughout may 'good' published journals and houses as well. The reviewers often have a vested interested. Also the research is going to paint the best light possible so as to get published. What is ever wrong with research that says it does not work I wonder.

    The above research (in quotes) is what bring the credibility of the green sector down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    WingNut balderdash from The Heritage Foundation.
    Well thanks for your pointless comment, which has nothing whatsoever do do with the topic which I posted and the associated neg rep. How terribly childish of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    Well thanks for your pointless comment, which has nothing whatsoever do do with the topic which I posted and the associated neg rep. How terribly childish of you.
    The topic you posted is a load of nonsense.

    The Neg Rep was for posting such nonsense.


    If you had put it in the humour section you'd have been okay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    The topic you posted is a load of nonsense.

    The Neg Rep was for posting such nonsense.


    If you had put it in the humour section you'd have been okay.
    Still nothing of substance to add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riven View Post
    It is an issue that resonates throughout may 'good' published journals and houses as well. The reviewers often have a vested interested. Also the research is going to paint the best light possible so as to get published. What is ever wrong with research that says it does not work I wonder.

    The above research (in quotes) is what bring the credibility of the green sector down.
    The issue of academic research is an interesting one, might make an interesting thread when I have more time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster View Post
    Still nothing of substance to add.
    Substance?

    On a thread about some illogical nonsense being peddled by the fruit loops at the Heritage Foundation?

    Would you ever cop on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    Substance?

    On a thread about some illogical nonsense being peddled by the fruit loops at the Heritage Foundation?

    Would you ever cop on?
    Nothing at all to add? Seriously, with some due respect IYDLIFO.
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    I don't know what sort of substantive comment you expect on this article, from your link

    Dr. Calzada simply calculated how many jobs, on average, would have been supported with these resources had they been left to the private market. The ASE critique doesn’t even recognize that the costs exist. Therefore, the ASE critique can hardly be used to undermine the credibility of the Spanish conclusion—subsidies for green technologies reduce overall employment.
    This is a ridiculously simplistic approach.

    It's obvious that money paid in taxes does not compete 1:1 with money which would have been used for new hires. Very very few businesses are so labour constrained at any time and right now I doubt there are any.

    The Heritage foundation has a track record of producing extremely poor research designed merely to back whatever the Republican party are currently claiming. They're quite literally not worth reading except perhaps for the emotional enjoyment of such if you already agree with them.
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