ESRI urges action on climate change

[wombat]

Its interesting that the report advocates increased charges and taxes to force people to reduce CO2 production. It would be far more interesting to hear they were studying SoI's proposal to see if their claim of cheaper power is feasable and if their sums add up, technology, not taxation is the solution.

[fiannafailure]

Its interesting that the report advocates increased charges and taxes to force people to reduce CO2 production. It would be far more interesting to hear they were studying SoI's proposal to see if their claim of cheaper power is feasable and if their sums add up, technology, not taxation is the solution.

Thanks wombat, James Lovelock would agree with you, in his eyes Ireland should be producing all the renewable energy it can and help out the rest of Europe.

[wombat]

Thanks wombat, James Lovelock would agree with you, in his eyes Ireland should be producing all the renewable energy it can and help out the rest of Europe.

We have been through this discussion before, you're a believer, I'm a sceptic but not an unbeliever. I have enough faith in the SoI people to accept that the proposal is technically feasable but I have my doubts about the scale of the scheme. I have doubts about the logistics - sourcing and deploying the number of windmills in 5 years seems unrealistic but so was Ardnacrusha in its day. My point regarding the thread is that a govt. research body would be better employed producing a report on the SoI proposal rather than devising new taxes.

[fiannafailure]

wombat that's good enough for me, all I can say is that as regards the engineering fraternity, 8 out of 10 cats prefer whiskas, now there's a thought are there any vegan cats

[Jethro]

Its interesting that the report advocates increased charges and taxes to force people to reduce CO2 production. It would be far more interesting to hear they were studying SoI's proposal to see if their claim of cheaper power is feasable and if their sums add up, technology, not taxation is the solution.

The govt does not want to select any particular solution. It wants to put in place regulations and taxes that will alter the signals (prices) and then let the market select the best solution based on the new prices/terms.

[fiannafailure]

The govt does not want to select any particular solution. It wants to put in place regulations and taxes that will alter the signals (prices) and then let the market select the best solution based on the new prices/terms.

So S of I will win then, pity it will be too late for the economy to benefit

[H]

We need to reduce the national carbon footprint by at least 50% in the next 5-10 years if we are to avert catastrophic Climate Change and the sea engulfing all our major cities. We truly are on the brink of climate disaster. A little bit of hardship is better than most of the major cities in the British Isles under 100 feet of water.
Mother earth won't survive another 25 years if unsustainable behaviour continues much longer. People will have to pay for the CO2 that they produce. End of story.

Truly you adhere to the belief system of a Scientologist or a Right wing fundamentalist your grasp of climate science appears to be informed by Wikipedia or whatever propaganda you are fed.

If the Greens want to bring in a new carbon tax that will achieve nothing to reduce carbon emissions I would reccomend a campaign of civil dis - obedience

Relevant scientific data shows the earth has cooled down to a 30-year average, check out NASA's Aqua satellite one of the four main measurements of world temperature.

Scientic studies debunk the pseudo- science that is man-made global warming. That is why the term has conveniently been replaced by "climate change". Quite cunning really, because the climate always changes.

Check out the (Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 114, 2009), little or none of the late 20th century global warming and cooling can be attributed to any human activity.

the report shows El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) is a key indicator of global atmospheric temperatures seven months later.

If we allow this incompetent Government to pass a carbon tax, it will set a dangerous precedent, as all forms of human activity and consumption will then be open to taxation.

The Irish economy has been destroyed by FF/Greens thousands of households are already on the edge; Carbon taxes will destroy recovery by further stalling growth and production.

Bring on the election to dump the wingnuts and quasi religious Green fundamentalits

[Wakeupcall]

the best action we could do is to not agree to any reductions in emmissions.

Signing kyoto ii will be economic suicide. Paying carbon taxes is the greatest theft in history.

[size="6"]agreed we are a blip on the planet in an economic mess to epic extremes.

Stay out of kyoto and forget the carbon taxes. It will destroy our economy[/size]

[fiannafailure]

And yet again I state and have the evidence to prove, there is no good reason apart from greed or rotten policy, for Ireland to in fact reduce our carbon footprint and benefit from the carbon taxes paid by other countries.

[SIZE="4"]Without a single impact on our way of life[/SIZE]

The Minister of course will not come out to play or debate any of the issues. too bad for him, we will have the debate without him, and push it through despite him and the greens

[joel]

The govt does not want to select any particular solution. It wants to put in place regulations and taxes that will alter the signals (prices) and then let the market select the best solution based on the new prices/terms.

Right - it doesn't want to govern but let the Market decide. All the while, while propping up the Market!